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What things that are legal today could become illegal in 50 years?

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    I always had some sympathy with them. It just seems like they want off this awful capitalistic treadmill we find ourselves on. Everyone always laughs and belittles them, but I'm always rooting for em just a lil bit

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    SovCits are not noble campaigners fighting against injustice. They are idiots deluded enough to think they've found the cheat code to the legal system by spouting the right string of nonsense.

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      The concept of being trans is a relatively new thing, by historical timelines.

      The historical record for what we would now call transgender people goes back over 4,000 to Ancient Babylon. And that's just the written historical record.

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      Yeah, we just called trans folk hermaphrodites or transexuals or some other words than we use now. Language has been fluid but the concept is not new. Hell, I grew up familiar with it and I was pretty naive.

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        FOSS running directly on metal

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          Slaughtering animals for food.

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            That's my big thing. They always claim they need a truck to do truck things, but the vast amount of truck beds I see are empty. I don't own a truck, but still need to do truck things sometimes. When I do I pay around 40 bucks to rent one for the day, do all my truck things, then return it. Idk, maybe I'm crazy but I've spent maybe a few hundred doing that, that seems like a better deal than 80k

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            Exactly! When we gamed out the cost, it was almost double for the loan. Oil changes cost double (there’s your $40 every 3-6months), and the parts were vastly more expensive. So we only pulled even renting a truck a 3x a week. At 80k I’d need to be pulling something daily more than 10 miles 7 days a week to beat the cost of renting a vehicle.

            Nevermind there’s basically nothing I can buy that can’t be delivered from say Home Depot without me needing a truck.

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              If right-wing nutjobs keep running the government I am going to say "birth control" and "sodomy" are on the chopping block. Hopefully by 50 years this won't still be the issue but its what they want now. Just to note that the old "sodomy" laws made everything that wasn't PIV illegal. So if you like oral sex that will be illegal now. Sorry everyone no more fun

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                What do you mean by the home ownership piece?

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                The billionaires paying for campaign contributions of most politicians in modern democracies (seem to) want to get back to having "company towns" for each of the business they own.

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                  Positive: ecocide universally accepted as criminal and backed up with meaningfully disincentivising penalties

                  Negative: being remotely off grid in any way. Probably a symptom of me being British, but I fully expect there to be a point where we're required to be constantly tracked (location, what you consume, what you see, etc) in real time and it'll become a crime to evade it.

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                  Positive: ecocide universally accepted as criminal and backed up with meaningfully disincentivising penalties

                  I hope so. But I find it hard to believe that enough world leaders are clean to get that thru. So much of what is weird in the news today makes perfect sense if I add these words to the end of the headline: "after a coke binge".

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                    Exactly! When we gamed out the cost, it was almost double for the loan. Oil changes cost double (there’s your $40 every 3-6months), and the parts were vastly more expensive. So we only pulled even renting a truck a 3x a week. At 80k I’d need to be pulling something daily more than 10 miles 7 days a week to beat the cost of renting a vehicle.

                    Nevermind there’s basically nothing I can buy that can’t be delivered from say Home Depot without me needing a truck.

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                    Same, same. Even with high delivery fees it's still worth just paying them vs buying a truck. Unless you need lumber delivered daily, then it doesn't matter.

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                      Slaughtering animals for food.

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                      The odds of that happening are pretty damned low.

                      It'd be great, but super unlikely

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                        In the Netherlands that's already a thing for anyone aged 14 and up

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                        And it hurts absolutely nobody.

                        Turns out, the problem isn't carrying ID, the problem is US cops.

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                          Slaughtering animals for food.

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                          Just for funsies then?

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                            I also predict erosion of 2nd Amendment for non-whites

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                            You mean like the black panthers and the nra?

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                              If they went and lived in some remote mountain village or something I wouldn't mind.

                              But they claim all of this while driving without a licence or insurance. Would you be as sympathetic to their cause if they hit your car and cause serious damage?

                              I sort of understand their point but they've also been unimaginably selfish and entitled and that's the part I can't get behind. Also every single one of them is, without fail, an utter moron.

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                              Don't forget a huge part of the movement is people trying to evade child support

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                                Ah fuck, I knew someone would be around to pick on that.

                                Trans rights in Western culture is a new thing we gotta fight for. Fuck me, gay rights is a relatively new thing we still gotta fight for. Didn't read my post? Were you not around when gay marriage was a sticking point? Like, 15-years ago? I know goddamned well the concept has existed since we were monkeys.

                                Your comment is a perfect example of why conservatives hate holier-than-thou liberals. Pick up a rifle or STFU.

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                                Sorry, but the attitudes you expressed have directly hurt the trans community in recent years. Hell, in the recent Skremetti case that saw the erosion of trans rights, even the liberal justices were completely ignorant about just how far back in time trans people go. The idea that trans people are a new phenomenon is directly harmful to our rights and safety.

                                Look, fine if you want to LARP as an armed defender of freedom. But ultimately you're just playing dress up. You may style yourself a defender of the rights of minorities, but you're giving advice that is only applicable to someone in your position. 2nd Amendment rights effectively do not exist for members of many minority groups. What you're allowed to get away with because you're a middle aged cis white guy will result in members of other groups getting immediately shot by police.

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                                  Computers and phones that don't have locked bootloaders. You know how North Korean phones and computers alert the State every time a disallowed file is accessed or the user does something that doesn't align with The Ideology? It's going to be like that. Civilian ownership of machine tools will of course be banned on a "possession = incarceration" basis and not just banning sales. Air conditioning won't become all-out illegal but it will be regulated as rigorously as gun ownership in countries outside the US are, most people wont have lawful access to it anymore and the ones that do only get to cool things down to survivable temperatures and not comfortable temperatures. People will be running illegal refrigerant labs in their basement and making illegal thermostat modchips and everything.

                                  There's no way the US isn't going to eventually criminalize all positive drug tests (like many other shithole countries have done including Japan, China and Singapore) once they reverse the last 40 years of marijuana reform and then punish everyone who had any part in it. Having been involved in the cannabis industry is going to be like having been a Jew in 1930s Germany. Same with being transgender, lgbt, or neurodivergent. It goes without saying that not being a maga christian will someday become a "get sent to a torture camp" offense as well. All porn will become as illegal as csam currently is. Cars won't actually get banned but the non elite class will lose access to them all the same because the government will enable corporations to continue colluding to do price fixing and generating fake scarcity. The lucky ones with prestigious State Approved science or military jobs may be able to petition to be allowed to buy one under government assistance (which is really just an unfairly priced loan in disguise) with a multi-year waiting list similar to how the car situation in the Soviet Union was. Driving rights will likely be tied to ideological alignment in some extent. At the very least, testing positive for nonphysoactive metaboltics of any banned substance will be treated the same as a dui but being lgbt, neurodivergent or non-christian may be also be punished the same as a dui becuase they'd argue it's "moral impairment" or some shit.

                                  Voting for anyone outside of The Party during our fake elections will of course be a big no-no. The delusional decisions leading to all of this are also going to result in food shortages and mass starvation. People living in strategically important population centers may experience less hardship on average, just like in the Soviet Union. Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                                  A long time ago learning skills like machining and chemistry while stockpiling guns and ammo would have been the thing to do but good people have become such a minority that I fear the best we can do is make the most of the time we have left before things get a lot harder and a lot less.. worthwhile.

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                                    Maybe edit the wording in the post to clarify that instead of writing this response.

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                                    I can't edit my posts. Asked around and no one is sure why. Browser doesn't matter, it's my account!

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                                      What do you mean by the home ownership piece?

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                                      you think the oligarchs are going to continue letting us own our stuff instead of renting it?

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                                        protesting

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                                          Sorry, but the attitudes you expressed have directly hurt the trans community in recent years. Hell, in the recent Skremetti case that saw the erosion of trans rights, even the liberal justices were completely ignorant about just how far back in time trans people go. The idea that trans people are a new phenomenon is directly harmful to our rights and safety.

                                          Look, fine if you want to LARP as an armed defender of freedom. But ultimately you're just playing dress up. You may style yourself a defender of the rights of minorities, but you're giving advice that is only applicable to someone in your position. 2nd Amendment rights effectively do not exist for members of many minority groups. What you're allowed to get away with because you're a middle aged cis white guy will result in members of other groups getting immediately shot by police.

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                                          Say fucking what?! LGBT people have been a major gun purchasing demographic since Trump 1.0. Didn't get the memo? /r/liberalgunowners was flooded with gay and trans folks asking for advice on purchases and training and safety. That's anecdotal, feel free to find sources on your own. Such articles and stats are an all-you-can-eat buffet.

                                          And yeah, I got privilege, shitloads of it. I know this, so do not fucking dare come at me like I'm sheltered! If I can use that privilege to support the less privileged I'll do so, with out without your permission. Two seconds after Florida legalizes open-carry, I will be at the protests with a slung AR and my .45 on my belt. Don't want to do it yourself? I'm 100% fine with that, would not ask that of anyone else. But if we're at the same event, expect the police to act as a polite peace-keeping force, because of me and people like me.

                                          Yes, being armed in the face of opposition can certainly result in getting killed. They're going to kill LGBT folks as is. Guessing you weren't around for the onset of the AIDS epidemic? They purposefully let that shit run buck wild, did nothing, because it was a "gay disease". If you want to curl up in a ball for fear of your life, get on the trains and beat the rush.

                                          Some of you people are so goddamned insufferable you turn away your own allies, the very people who would stand with you. Always looking for a fight, always looking for ideological purity. Well fuck you in particular, you will not turn me away from human rights.

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