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What things that are legal today could become illegal in 50 years?

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    protesting

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      Sorry, but the attitudes you expressed have directly hurt the trans community in recent years. Hell, in the recent Skremetti case that saw the erosion of trans rights, even the liberal justices were completely ignorant about just how far back in time trans people go. The idea that trans people are a new phenomenon is directly harmful to our rights and safety.

      Look, fine if you want to LARP as an armed defender of freedom. But ultimately you're just playing dress up. You may style yourself a defender of the rights of minorities, but you're giving advice that is only applicable to someone in your position. 2nd Amendment rights effectively do not exist for members of many minority groups. What you're allowed to get away with because you're a middle aged cis white guy will result in members of other groups getting immediately shot by police.

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      Say fucking what?! LGBT people have been a major gun purchasing demographic since Trump 1.0. Didn't get the memo? /r/liberalgunowners was flooded with gay and trans folks asking for advice on purchases and training and safety. That's anecdotal, feel free to find sources on your own. Such articles and stats are an all-you-can-eat buffet.

      And yeah, I got privilege, shitloads of it. I know this, so do not fucking dare come at me like I'm sheltered! If I can use that privilege to support the less privileged I'll do so, with out without your permission. Two seconds after Florida legalizes open-carry, I will be at the protests with a slung AR and my .45 on my belt. Don't want to do it yourself? I'm 100% fine with that, would not ask that of anyone else. But if we're at the same event, expect the police to act as a polite peace-keeping force, because of me and people like me.

      Yes, being armed in the face of opposition can certainly result in getting killed. They're going to kill LGBT folks as is. Guessing you weren't around for the onset of the AIDS epidemic? They purposefully let that shit run buck wild, did nothing, because it was a "gay disease". If you want to curl up in a ball for fear of your life, get on the trains and beat the rush.

      Some of you people are so goddamned insufferable you turn away your own allies, the very people who would stand with you. Always looking for a fight, always looking for ideological purity. Well fuck you in particular, you will not turn me away from human rights.

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        Private ownership.
        Why would you even want this, when you can book it as a service without all the hassles and this highly criminal "privacy". What are you? A drug dealer? A pedophile? Both?

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        Ah yes. the rise of neo-communism. Soon the circle will be complete.

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          Slaughtering animals for food.

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          In 50 years I don't see it.

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            In the Netherlands that's already a thing for anyone aged 14 and up

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            Really so if your walking your dog you need your ID?

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              Mentioning climate change. Seems every government is backtracking on it.

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                Yeah, we just called trans folk hermaphrodites or transexuals or some other words than we use now. Language has been fluid but the concept is not new. Hell, I grew up familiar with it and I was pretty naive.

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                Hermaphrodites are a completely different thing. They are not trans, well I guess they could be but hermaphrodite is not what people used to call trans people.

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                  That's my big thing. They always claim they need a truck to do truck things, but the vast amount of truck beds I see are empty. I don't own a truck, but still need to do truck things sometimes. When I do I pay around 40 bucks to rent one for the day, do all my truck things, then return it. Idk, maybe I'm crazy but I've spent maybe a few hundred doing that, that seems like a better deal than 80k

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                  I off-road camp do bees hunt and I'm only me why would I want a second vehicle. The stuff I do can be messy and hard to clean especially the bees. Are you going to see my box empty probably doesn't mean it isn't used and also doesn't mean I don't use my truck for other things. A car can't do.

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                    Living in an "unchristian" way in any form, be it being an atheist, LGBTQ+, etc.

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                    This is what arson is for.

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                      I off-road camp do bees hunt and I'm only me why would I want a second vehicle. The stuff I do can be messy and hard to clean especially the bees. Are you going to see my box empty probably doesn't mean it isn't used and also doesn't mean I don't use my truck for other things. A car can't do.

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                      Okay, still as other people said, unless you literally carry things 4+ times a day financially it doesn't make sense to buy a new truck, so that hasn't changed.

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                        What do you mean by the home ownership piece?

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                        Private equity figured out that the 2008 panic happened because people were defaulting on mortgages. So they just went straight into the housing market as landlords. They’ll eventually lobby congress to make it illegal for the poor to own housing

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                          protesting

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                          Already illegal in China and Russia to name a few, no need to wait 50 years for this to happen

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                            SovCits are not noble campaigners fighting against injustice. They are idiots deluded enough to think they've found the cheat code to the legal system by spouting the right string of nonsense.

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                            They're desperate and aware there's something wrong with the system they're in, without having the education or experience to realize that the people running it don't actually care about the rules.

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                              Really so if your walking your dog you need your ID?

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                              Not exactly, there are some requirements but if they’re met (you commit an offense, or in high suspicion, e-bike controls), and you can’t show ID it’s a fine

                              But essentially yes

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                                And it hurts absolutely nobody.

                                Turns out, the problem isn't carrying ID, the problem is US cops.

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                                Lots of butt hurt Americans downvoting here

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                                  Breathing.

                                  Who honestly knows at this point in time?

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                                    Already illegal in China and Russia to name a few, no need to wait 50 years for this to happen

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                                    And in the UK

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                                      Really so if your walking your dog you need your ID?

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                                      In Germany it‘s similar. You are required to have an ID with you. It’s not strictly illegal though to not have it on you but if you happen to have business with police (be it an accident, random traffic stop or you having part in illegal activities), when you don’t have it on you, they can make you come to the police station with them to confirm your identity, even if they wouldn’t otherwise.

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                                        Computers and phones that don't have locked bootloaders. You know how North Korean phones and computers alert the State every time a disallowed file is accessed or the user does something that doesn't align with The Ideology? It's going to be like that. Civilian ownership of machine tools will of course be banned on a "possession = incarceration" basis and not just banning sales. Air conditioning won't become all-out illegal but it will be regulated as rigorously as gun ownership in countries outside the US are, most people wont have lawful access to it anymore and the ones that do only get to cool things down to survivable temperatures and not comfortable temperatures. People will be running illegal refrigerant labs in their basement and making illegal thermostat modchips and everything.

                                        There's no way the US isn't going to eventually criminalize all positive drug tests (like many other shithole countries have done including Japan, China and Singapore) once they reverse the last 40 years of marijuana reform and then punish everyone who had any part in it. Having been involved in the cannabis industry is going to be like having been a Jew in 1930s Germany. Same with being transgender, lgbt, or neurodivergent. It goes without saying that not being a maga christian will someday become a "get sent to a torture camp" offense as well. All porn will become as illegal as csam currently is. Cars won't actually get banned but the non elite class will lose access to them all the same because the government will enable corporations to continue colluding to do price fixing and generating fake scarcity. The lucky ones with prestigious State Approved science or military jobs may be able to petition to be allowed to buy one under government assistance (which is really just an unfairly priced loan in disguise) with a multi-year waiting list similar to how the car situation in the Soviet Union was. Driving rights will likely be tied to ideological alignment in some extent. At the very least, testing positive for nonphysoactive metaboltics of any banned substance will be treated the same as a dui but being lgbt, neurodivergent or non-christian may be also be punished the same as a dui becuase they'd argue it's "moral impairment" or some shit.

                                        Voting for anyone outside of The Party during our fake elections will of course be a big no-no. The delusional decisions leading to all of this are also going to result in food shortages and mass starvation. People living in strategically important population centers may experience less hardship on average, just like in the Soviet Union. Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                                        A long time ago learning skills like machining and chemistry while stockpiling guns and ammo would have been the thing to do but good people have become such a minority that I fear the best we can do is make the most of the time we have left before things get a lot harder and a lot less.. worthwhile.

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                                        Of course toilet paper is a thing we'll all have to learn to live without sooner or later.

                                        Unless they ban washing private parts with water or water access gets restricted.

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                                          In Germany it‘s similar. You are required to have an ID with you. It’s not strictly illegal though to not have it on you but if you happen to have business with police (be it an accident, random traffic stop or you having part in illegal activities), when you don’t have it on you, they can make you come to the police station with them to confirm your identity, even if they wouldn’t otherwise.

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                                          You are required to be able to ID yourself, "Ausweispflicht", but that does not require you to carry your physical ID with you when leaving your house, it just requires you to own said ID once you reach the age of 16.

                                          https://www.deurag.de/blog/mitfuehrpflicht-des-personalausweises/

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