A big part of learning Linux is screwing up computers and starting over.
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Great incentive to learn even faster
And enforces the value of installing documentation and source packages
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You mean why? Because you're using your bare machine, you can use it as you wish. No nanny software limiting the fun or productivity
Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.
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Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.
Nah, if you're installing something user friendly (ie Linux Mint just for an example) it'll work 1st time, guaranteed - or your money back.
But... you'll only really learn once you've fubar'd something... just like
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It's even better if your only internet connection is that computer you broke.
Ah yes, reminds me of messing with my 1st pfSense firewall... I learned how good their recovery process was that evening
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"Starting over" is how we learnt Windows in the 90's too
I still remember playing around in autoexec.bat, config.sys and command.com but don't remember what the hell i was doing there and probably shouldn't have touched those files. I guess i learned something as i haven't bricked anything this side of the milennia.
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Bricking hardware is a form of enrichment for me.
Ah, have you found the land of IoT? Bricks everywhere, you'd love it.
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Ah yes, reminds me of messing with my 1st pfSense firewall... I learned how good their recovery process was that evening
Just bricked my Proxmox install an hour ago and I have the pleasure to learn their recovery process sucks. (At least for my case)
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My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?
Pretty much everytime I try to do fancy stuff with the bootloader I get pretty close to nuking systems.
Worst was my 1st UEFI system where I was trying to get rEFInd to show multiple OS to boot from... eventually gave up and went back to the warm embrace of GRUB -
Just bricked my Proxmox install an hour ago and I have the pleasure to learn their recovery process sucks. (At least for my case)
Ah, yeah, you've just reminded me, I must move my stuff off proxmox when I get a chance.
I tried that proxmox backup thing when I first set it up, good god what a complex mess... backup & recovery needs to be as simple and as smooth as possible.
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Ah, have you found the land of IoT? Bricks everywhere, you'd love it.
You're suggesting I should follow the yellow brick road to find the Wizard of -Oz- iOT
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You're suggesting I should follow the yellow brick road to find the Wizard of -Oz- iOT
Why not... or try another brick in the wall
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Pretty much everytime I try to do fancy stuff with the bootloader I get pretty close to nuking systems.
Worst was my 1st UEFI system where I was trying to get rEFInd to show multiple OS to boot from... eventually gave up and went back to the warm embrace of GRUBIf you take the plunge and switch to systemd-boot it's worth it. It's the only boot manager I've tried in the last decade that feels like an upgrade from GRUB.
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My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?
I would actually be amazed if I ever bricked a PC fucking around with installing things to it. At the very worst, I might have to move a jumper pin to flash the CMOS and start fresh like I never even touched the thing.
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Yeah but breaking like six computers to do it, or one computer six times, seems like a pretty steep price for that when I basically just use my computer for gaming browsing and the occasional audio/video edit.
OP said breaking the kernel, not the machine. The computers would be fine, its pretty damn difficult to brick a computer using software, at least by accident.
Normal users will not break their kernel, op is likely doing some advanced tinkering. I have been using Linux for years and am definitely an advanced user and Ive broken my kernel zero times.
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Never the kernel but just about every time I touch /etc/fstab I fuck something up. I've done that a lot....
Oh, I typed that line wrong to mount the drive and because the non-os drive isn't detected you're only going to boot to emergency mode?
Cool cool cool.
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My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?
No no no! When you break something in Linux systems you fix it. Starting over and reinstalling everything is what you do when you mess up on Windows.
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Nah, if you're installing something user friendly (ie Linux Mint just for an example) it'll work 1st time, guaranteed - or your money back.
But... you'll only really learn once you've fubar'd something... just like
falling offriding a bikeI want double my money back if the free program doesn't work!
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OP said breaking the kernel, not the machine. The computers would be fine, its pretty damn difficult to brick a computer using software, at least by accident.
Normal users will not break their kernel, op is likely doing some advanced tinkering. I have been using Linux for years and am definitely an advanced user and Ive broken my kernel zero times.
Gotcha, that's reassuring
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No no no! When you break something in Linux systems you fix it. Starting over and reinstalling everything is what you do when you mess up on Windows.
Funny I did not expect so many people that resist starting over. Next time I'll give fixing stuff a shot
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No no no! When you break something in Linux systems you fix it. Starting over and reinstalling everything is what you do when you mess up on Windows.
Generally yes. My exception was the time i accidentally nuked python in it's entirety...
