Flag flown upside down as sign of distress outside of US State Department building today
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The real problem with AI is that you have to be so damn skeptical even of real posts.
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No. Americans do not want this
Then they would've voted.
By not voting they are saying they are ok with either option.
That's how democracy works. Voters can bury their heads in the sand, it doesn't make the politicians go away.
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the election was stolen
Uhhhh it is not evident at all and I’m devastated he won. Proof or you’re as bad as the 2020 election deniers.
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the election was stolen
Uhhhh it is not evident at all and I’m devastated he won. Proof or you’re as bad as the 2020 election deniers.
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Because they are a Canadian and your dumbass president keeps trying to start the process of annexation. Do you have any idea how angry folk up here have become?
We are a tiny country in terms of people and a massive one in terms of land. We cannot legally participate in your systems of government in a meaningful way but we have always been effected by US political decisions and the lack of co-ordinated resistance nessisary from it's citizens to fix the issues that affect all of us.
I have compassion that you guys honestly didn't want this. That this was a co-ordinated attack on your freedoms.
But I am also angry that it was slacktivist feel good measures of defiance that was the go to for so many on the left when a lot of folk on the right were using the system against you directly because finding the way to apply and lobby and interface with the system directly gets poo pooed as having to deal with and act like a Democrat...but is how the system is designed to function.
The truth is that other countries can't help you. The only legal interface we have is through proper channels because there are bodies of law and military systems that keep us in check from interference. Technically your country hasn't tripped the switch where we can directly meddle because that would mean a war.
You have no such restrictions. You can use sabotage, soft resistance, legal avenues, press to leave the union, show up at your municipal and state governments with petitions, organize into actual milltias like your own constitutional documents say is a good thing for when your country had gone rogue. Your founders were edgy mistrustful bastards who designed your country with the idea that it might need to be overthrown. None of this is easy. Up here a lot of people are preparing - taking relevant coursework, getting firearm licencing and training proficiency, working with aid programs to assist refugees and using measures that change our behaviour, sometimes at personal cost to future plans or to pocketbooks.
You can ignore Canadian and Mexican voices in this squabble. Let's face it, we're used to it as most of your discourse likes to pretend we don't exist. But everybody gets an opinion here and we are relevant... Because your country will crush us with the combined weight of individual inaction eventually.
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I'd prefer it if the radical liberals would fuck off so that they stop handing every election to the Republicans thank you very much.
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Isolation really is an American mentality but it's not particularly great for actually striking out. If you want to atop things from getting worse Collectivist activities and thinking is your best chance.
Reach out to the people who are already doing stuff. If you have a union or a political action group, go to it and start organizing. Find people who understand democratic systems and collective action and offer your time. In fighting is the luxury of peacetime so learn to do that which is not your own exact process. Set aside differences and petty disagreement and work to mutual benefit.
Learn the Roberts rules of order or how your local and state governments function and utilize channels that exist. If you have a gardening or farmers market society reach out and looking at replacing your lawn for gardens and pool with like minded neighbours. Learn first aid and stock a kit. Train your body to be fit and learn self defense. Prepare yourself to be disobedient on someone else's behalf.
Your votes at a federal level are no longer being considered but will your protest be toothless? If you are feeling doom, reach out and find hope in solidarity.
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The cavalry's not coming. It's just us.
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Ahh, I didn't know about that historical context. Thanks!
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I agree!!! When I said isolation I meant more in the place where you are, build yourself up so when your neighbors need help they can lean on you for a bit while they set themselves up when things start to collapse.
The answer is not a cabin in the woods, but to make yourself as ready as you can be so you can help others so they can get to a position where they can help you.
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They were wearing diapers to support their dear leader.
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And what are you (or literally anybody else) going to do in the next two years to organize a viable progressive party with viable progressive candidates?
You sure you got the demographics right? Or do you think maybe Lemmy isn't an accurate reflection of the nation as a whole, with respect to political ideology?
It seems like you people believe that voting for Harris (and pointing out objective reality) precludes a person from being a leftist or progressive. You alienate the people who actually probably agree with you on a lot of things because they don't pass your purity test.
Leftism in a nutshell.
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I shoulded myself
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Why is it always someone else who has to do something? Why not you?
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We do. It's the 2nd amendment. Literally what it was written for, the forceful reclamation of democratic freedom should it be taken by a tyrannical leadership. Too bad everyone that actually gives a damn about that option is on red team, and blue team thinks the 2nd amendment is for killing children and nothing else.
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I'm doing everything I can, including starting my own group to organize locally, making God only knows how many calls to state reps, learning how to defend myself, translating for local immigrants with questions about what's happening, attending protests and assisting in those organization efforts, brushing up on my history, learning more about international treaties and alliances, volunteering at a food bank, and some other things that I would be stupid to share.
You know what they say about assumptions.
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It appears to be real. The federal government is currently in the midst of the most comprehensive purge in the history of the nation, and many career civil servants are being asked to retire early with a severance "or else". The worrying part should have come when Project 2025 laid out the groundwork for what is happening right at this very moment, back when it was first revealed. Trump intends to replace all of these government workers with yes-men and cronies who will be loyal to him and him alone, and not the constitution or the American people they are meant to serve. The damage being done right now will probably never be reversed in our lifetimes and will pave the way for absolute executive control - in other words, a dictatorship. This is not alarmist, this was the plan all along and nobody listened.
If you don't have a plan to GTFO in case things get even worse, I would start making one right now. You have to set an uncrossable line yourself and be prepared to act on it, because other people are going to continue to go along with this until the very end, so you can't count on other people to be giving you signals on when to bail out.
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This is specifically what NATO is designed for, to help when there are 3rd party threats to member nations. We have both made threats to other member nations (Canada, Greenland) and are currently experiencing a coup in our own country, which is a 3rd party threat if I've ever heard one.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
I am doing everything I can, but as a private citizen my options are extremely limited. What am I supposed to do in response to an international distress signal?
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See the edit to my OG comment. But know that I think you have some nerve denying that any of this is happening when you don't even live in this country. Which you conveniently didn't mention in your first reply to me.
I have seen more than one of these issues first hand, I will not try to convince a complete stranger of my lived experiences.
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Thanks for this. Anytime I talk about these things to folks outside the US, it's always some reply about "your country chose this!" And how, regardless of how I voted, I still somehow let this happen. It's super frustrating and disheartening. Now, it is the cool thing to be super anti-American.
This country has a huge population of people who are terrified and strictly opposed to what is happening. Once you decide: "Fuck the US," you're turning your back on millions of Americans that did not want this to happen and did what they could do stop it. We need help in our resistance. Please don't abandon us.