Germany decides to leave history in the past and prepare for war
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As an Alsatian, I just hop they keep the AFD in check for the foreseeable future !
More like the AFD's new arm
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This time one right side of the history. Let’s hope.
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Leftist parties in my small country in Western Europe are mainly advocating for more diplomacy.
They're generally on board with the idea that NATO expanded too much eastwards, undoing a promise made after the fall of the USSR. So they seem to view Russian attacks on Georgia, Crimea and now the rest of Ukraine as a logical consequence. With enough diplomatic maneuvering, they believe the situation can be resolved in a peaceful manner.
There never was such a promise, it was one diplomat who sid that and it was pulled back almost immediately. And most of all, there never was anything close to official or formal offered in that direction.
And that a country does not like a defense union, that was founded to manage their aggressions shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
The only one responsible for Russia's aggression is Russia itself.
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Oh, please. Germany never left history in the past. They’re still facilitating a long-running genocide in Palestine.
Yeah keep eating up the propaganda of how air defense, submarines and ships -that carry the aforementioned air-defense- (about 90%+ of all military deliveries to Israel) are used to genocide Palestinians and is totally not defense against actual hostile neighbours.
PS Also actual stuff classified as "weapons" in those military deliveries of the last years consist (after striking of training ammunition and some explosives for testing purposes in military development) one single order. One. That was for anti-tank weapons.
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How does a strong military prevent a war? It didn't work WW1 or 2.
Counter question: What does prevent your stuff from getting stolen all the time? Your ability to lock your door and a state-operated police and judical system that oversees the adherence to laws or the sign over your open door that everyone can come in an take your stuff unpunished?
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This article is about Germany rapidly increasing defence spending, and also the fact that they're considering conscription. I also found this interesting:
A recent YouGov poll showed that 79% of Germans still see Vladimir Putin as "very" or "quite" dangerous to European peace and security. Now 74% said the same for Donald Trump.
Thoughts?
I'm not really sure that we Germans have decided that.
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Yeah keep eating up the propaganda of how air defense, submarines and ships -that carry the aforementioned air-defense- (about 90%+ of all military deliveries to Israel) are used to genocide Palestinians and is totally not defense against actual hostile neighbours.
PS Also actual stuff classified as "weapons" in those military deliveries of the last years consist (after striking of training ammunition and some explosives for testing purposes in military development) one single order. One. That was for anti-tank weapons.
Is international law propaganda now? I've only heard Zionists say that. Are the headlines of UN health workers found buried with their hands tied behind their backs propaganda?
"Israel has a right to exist" is one of the biggest red herrings in political discourse. It's phrased to portray an abuser as a victim.
Israel does not have the right to do what it's doing now according to international law. Peaceful protestors in Germany have the weight of heavy handed policing coming down on them for this subject alone, exclusive of other subjects. Even a meeting with Francesca Albenese turned nasty - not at the hands of the group, but the German state.
There's more to just weaponry to a genocide, and Germany is complicit. So next time you're pontificating about facts, don't forget to include all of them. And check your definition of "propaganda".
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I see your attempt of derailing, but I'll play the game.
How does appeasement prevent a war? It didn't work for the First or Second World War.
You are just naive in thinking that weapons can prevent a war.
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Counter question: What does prevent your stuff from getting stolen all the time? Your ability to lock your door and a state-operated police and judical system that oversees the adherence to laws or the sign over your open door that everyone can come in an take your stuff unpunished?
Yes a state judical system, but not you holding your neightbor at gunpoint, but that is basically what militarism is advocationg for on an international level.
If you will you contradicted your 2nd part of your post with the first one.
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This article is about Germany rapidly increasing defence spending, and also the fact that they're considering conscription. I also found this interesting:
A recent YouGov poll showed that 79% of Germans still see Vladimir Putin as "very" or "quite" dangerous to European peace and security. Now 74% said the same for Donald Trump.
Thoughts?
What da fuq? No! Don’t they learn anything from last century?
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~$ sudo apt assessmentI hate it here
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You are just naive in thinking that weapons can prevent a war.
You are just naive in thinking that querfronts can prevent a war.
I never said that I think weapons prevent wars.
Wars with erratic actors like Putin cannot be prevented, because certainty of peace is built on trust, but Putin cannot be trusted.
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Every part of the world has a history of imperialism. Europe just happened to be the part that developed the tools to do it on the biggest scale, and the continent eventually burned itself down with them
China has had several of the biggest empires in history. So has India, so has Iran. Peru was once the seat of one of the biggest empires, and so was Mongolia. The Songhai and Mali empires were enormous. Ethiopia, the one part of Africa that kept outside conquerors out the longest, was itself a massive empire. Tonga once subjugated most of the other Pacific Islands.
The European empires inflicted a horrific amount of suffering, and they aren't completely gone. The mindset that created them, unfortunately, has been present in just about every society for all of history
Well worded!
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You are just naive in thinking that querfronts can prevent a war.
I never said that I think weapons prevent wars.
Wars with erratic actors like Putin cannot be prevented, because certainty of peace is built on trust, but Putin cannot be trusted.
So your solution is just to lay down and die (pobably litteraly)?
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So your solution is just to lay down and die (pobably litteraly)?
The country I live in tries to be prepared for war and so do many countries in Europe.
I and my in-group have a lot to lose when countries like Russia, USA or China expand their influence onto Europe, by indirect, hybrid or direct intervention.
European society is already split enough, it doesn't need further authority (from outside).
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Yeah keep eating up the propaganda of how air defense, submarines and ships -that carry the aforementioned air-defense- (about 90%+ of all military deliveries to Israel) are used to genocide Palestinians and is totally not defense against actual hostile neighbours.
PS Also actual stuff classified as "weapons" in those military deliveries of the last years consist (after striking of training ammunition and some explosives for testing purposes in military development) one single order. One. That was for anti-tank weapons.
I get what you're trying to say, but the thing about submarines is that you need them as a third element of the triad.
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As an Alsatian, I just hop they keep the AFD in check for the foreseeable future !
Seeing what's been going on since the election I don't have high hopes
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This time one right side of the history. Let’s hope.
Hey, we were on the right side last time too... politically
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I have many friends here in eu talking about Europe getting militant as a bad thing. I'm not for escalating conflict in any way, but would like to hear some alternatives.
It's a difficult topic but I believe the voices against it are just as important as the voices for it to keep it in check.
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I'm not really sure that we Germans have decided that.
We havent left the past behind us. We embrace it and make sure this wont happen again!
