Bazzite founder might shutdown whole project if Fedora drops support for 32 bit packages
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After Bazzite I went to Garuda, is also gaming focused and has a handy helper app that helps you install common software, run updates, and more.
If you need a new distro it's worth a look.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Isn't Garuda also based on Fedora?
Edit: I was thinking of Nobara.
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WINE’s WoW64, does not work for all games.
Ok but is that because of fundamental limitations, or just because of bugs?
One's easier to fix than the other.
If it works like real WoW64, then 16 bit applications won't work ever but 32 bit applications that don't work will be because of fixable bugs.
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Why would distro hopping be a good thing? I thought that was a problem, hoping from one distro to the next not settling on one. I always see people encouraging newbies to stick to one and learn how Linux works.
its a important part of the learning process going to far in and needing to get out
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I'm wondering what the problem even is. I mean, can't you just put all the stuff relevant to 32 bit gaming into a 'retro-gaming' package and be like "there, now if you want updates, better find maintainers"?
If you have an old game, chances are you won't need many new features. Only problem could be other packages or the kernel becoming incompatible. I don't know how relevant that is in this instance.
only problem could be other packages or the kernel becoming incompatible
Yea dependency management without updates is like 80% of the work that goes into package maintenance
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Isn't Garuda also based on Fedora?
Edit: I was thinking of Nobara.
god these names just sound the fucking same, garudo nobara banuda ronada, talking about linux gaming distros is liable to summon a demon
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After Bazzite I went to Garuda, is also gaming focused and has a handy helper app that helps you install common software, run updates, and more.
If you need a new distro it's worth a look.
I went to Garuda
THERE'S DOZENS OF US, DOZENS!!
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god these names just sound the fucking same, garudo nobara banuda ronada, talking about linux gaming distros is liable to summon a demon
Genuinely funny comment, thank you.
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If it works like real WoW64, then 16 bit applications won't work ever but 32 bit applications that don't work will be because of fixable bugs.
It seems to me that 16-bit applications are already basically broken with 32-bit wine if you're running a 64-bit kernel, by default it places extra restrictions over what the hardware already does to prevent apps from loading 16-bit code entirely.
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/FAQ#16-bit-applications-fail-to-start
Guessing that's why they don't feel it's that important to continue supporting, seems a VM is the future for these apps.
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lmao hope this amounts to a bunch of linux newbies learning what distro hopping is.
Until they distro hop back to Windows because they just want shit to work.
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Did he elaborate on why? Is it really that integral to have 32bit tools?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes, and from what I understood:
- Steam is still 32bit. Two-thirds of Bazzite's user base use the OS on handhelds requiring Steam's gaming mode front-end. Installing Steam as a flatpak removes the ability to boot into gaming mode, and so alienating two-thirds of Bazzite's user base.
- It will kill support for older games that are still 32bit. Wine's WoW64 isn't ready yet, and even so, building custom Proton for 32bit support (e.g. Including all the 32bit libraries inside of Proton itself) on top of the Proton provided by Valve is going to be very messy.
- OBS requires 32bit packages to capture video data from 32bit games. If 32bit is no longer supported, this'll kill streamers playing older games (OBS is probably the most widely used software by streamers and game recorders).
- It would kill VR on Bazzite, as VR still makes use of 32bit features (I'm not sure why or which ones, but that's what's said).
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I go with CachyOs
Ik ik the compiler optimizations only give a minor difference and maybe major in latency but am just comfy with it.
I just like how minimal is the distroCachyos has some great default setup choices too. Limine with btrfs + snapper, all preconfigured.. spot on!
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
Dw, this will pass - there is too much passion in the project, and too many with stakes in it too. If it is installed on so many people's systems, we will have many people eager to see this continue also.
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Cachyos has some great default setup choices too. Limine with btrfs + snapper, all preconfigured.. spot on!
Ohh yeah true I forgot they offer alterntive bootloaders that arent grub
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Why would they not just use an Arch base like the real SteamOS does?
I used EndeavorOS in the past which was a successor to AntergOS, both arch based, with gui installer and easy nvidia driver setup, they both worked like a charm without any issues (unlike fucking Manjaro).
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]If it helps at all some of the comments in the linked discussion mentions it's at minimum a year out
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base your whole project on a corporate Nazi shill company like IBM and find out.
watchu talkin bout mate
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Fedora and Red Hat are innovating image-based operating systems. Universal Blue builds on that work.
It would take effort to port that work to Arch. Arch is also a rolling distro, not updating means not getting security updates. Fedora's release cycle allows them to get more stability, they don't have to be using the latest version.
wrote last edited by [email protected]i think the effort has already been made, unless i'm misunderstanding what cachyos is
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I went to Garuda
THERE'S DOZENS OF US, DOZENS!!
Hell yeah brother, make it 11 of us!
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Instead of shutting down why not choose another distro base
Probably a lot of time and work to do so, they've spent a lot of time learning what tweaks Fedora needs.
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Honestly go for EnOS. Garuda is neat and has a good default setup, but they've gone a little far with their modifications imo
There is a lite version, but sure whatever you prefer.
