"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership
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I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.
I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.
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I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.
Are you me?
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I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.
As much as I do complain about Peertube, I do like how it's like the old personal blog days. Just kinda quietly do your own thing. I'm actually thinking of starting a channel to teach Japanese. I'll probably have a few lines of my diary and break down the vocabulary and grammar in English and French. It's like shit nobody would give a crap about, but it'll get me to keep up with my diary and maybe someone will find the info useful, which I think the earlier days of personal websites and blogs were like.
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A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJEFun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
I was never a fan of Linus tech tips. He always seemed like a weird guy. I did watch that video where he totally fucked his Linux installation by being really dumb. The package manager warned him that he was about to destroy his system and made him type something like "Yes, I know what I'm doing". He then reacted like, "why would Linux do this to me!? It's so hard!"
Either a paid shill or an absolute moron.
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A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJEFun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.
The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore, and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating. And thats not even taking any of the interpersonal issues, or legal drama from recent history
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I dunno. Something about the content I think.
A few years back some of their content was fun and interesting. Now lately it's all either "here's a bunch of comparisons of hardware you can't even afford" or "Linus puts some ridiculous tech in his own personal house - thanks for subsidizing his home improvement projects by the way"
I will still watch an occasional video but there are other tech related channels that I enjoy a lot more.
The clickbait titles and thumbnails destroyed most of the interest I had in their videos but at that time, it was clear that they were pivoting to a more typical less enthusiast-level audience. I still found some of their occasional videos somewhat interesting but the increasing hypocrisy and shit they've pulled made me stop watching all together.
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Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.
Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.
Tl;dr: please, no one watch Linus showing his whole ass.
Are you on his staff or something, or just a fanboy/flying monkey?
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I guess the point is channels are seeing a dropping viewership across the board. Or at least two different creators of VERY different videos have had the same experience so far. And the reddit thread behind this has more people (assuming they are telling the truth) confirming the drop.
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A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJEFun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
wrote last edited by [email protected]The most recent findings from Brodie Robertson were that the vieas to likes ratio skyrocketed, something that LTT also has confirmed on their side in the newer stream, and what seems like similar behavior in DarkviperAU's channel. It seems that the likes are the same or higher, and the actual pay for the ads are basically the same, but the views are reduced. It's as if views were the same but are being displayed lower than usual.
Not that most people here would care apparently, because the majority just wants to shit on Linus above actually having any worthwhile look into any of this stuff
Edit: Some direct links to said videos for whoever is interested
- https://youtu.be/1hVwUjcsl6s
- https://youtu.be/qPen-cHdYmk?t=1074 (timestamp 17:54)
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The problem is that there aren't any really viable alternatives. YouTube has three major advantages and all three are necessary. First and most critically it has a viable business model (that is it has a way to earn money to pay creators). It's a shitty business model, but it is viable which already puts it ahead of most services that are coasting on VC funds and hoping they'll trip over a business model before they go bankrupt. Second it has the infrastructure and capital to actually serve content. Running a video streaming service is the single largest bandwidth consumer you could possibly come up with and that means considerable network infrastructure costs, to say nothing of the storage demands. Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there's only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you're looking for you can find something to watch. It's a one stop shop for AV content.
Every single competitor to YouTube has failed on one of those points, usually the first one, rarely the second. The last service I saw come close to hitting all three was Vimeo, but it flamed out not even a decade after it launched. Twitch.tv is struggling to make their accounting work and isn't even a direct competitor because they're pushing hard for live streams as opposed to pre-recorded videos. Alternatives like PeerTube have no business model and will never attract creators or a mainstream audience. Paid hosting platforms like Floatplane are replacements for traditional video streaming services like Amazon Video or Netflix not really platforms where just anybody can set up a channel and start posting videos.
To paraphrase a famous saying, YouTube is the worst public video streaming service except for every other one. Until someone comes along and figures out how to make enough money to reliably pay creators and has enough capital to actually serve that content reliably and in high quality YouTube isn't going anywhere.
Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there’s only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you’re looking for you can find something to watch.
Yeah, though I think that you could avoid some of that with a good cross-video-hosting service search engine, as I don't think that most people are engaging in the social media aspect of YouTube. YouTube doesn't have a monopoly on indexing YouTube videos.
But the scale doesn't hurt them, that's for sure.
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Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.
Tl;dr: please, no one watch Linus showing his whole ass.
Are you on his staff or something, or just a fanboy/flying monkey?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Insults because you still don't have anything? Lol get off your high horse if you are going to act like this much of an ass.
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It's insane he ever had a healthy viewership in the first place.
Scrapyard wars and secret shopper are fun
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Insults because you still don't have anything? Lol get off your high horse if you are going to act like this much of an ass.
There are a ton of videos about his shittiness going back years from quite a few people, you could easily find them if you wanted to.
But I don’t get why you don’t just admit you don’t care about that history, it’s a lot less effort than whatever it is you’re trying to convince people of here.
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There are a ton of videos about his shittiness going back years from quite a few people, you could easily find them if you wanted to.
But I don’t get why you don’t just admit you don’t care about that history, it’s a lot less effort than whatever it is you’re trying to convince people of here.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Where did Linus touch you? You still keep referring to some magic videos but you can't say one example. He is living rent free in your head and you are trying your best. You tech Jesus fan boy or something?
Go on and explain what's the worst thing he has done? I'm your words, not some long boring gossip video about nothing.
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I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.
PeerTube would be great if you didn't have to self-host. And yes, I mean that. Every instance I've found that allows user uploads charges the users for bandwidth (or charges a subscription fee). I've never found an instance yet that works like Dailymotion or YouTube. When we get a big instance (like mastodon.social or one of the big two Lemmy instances), that allows user uploads freely and seamlessly, we'll start seeing it grow.
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I have to go to my subscribed channels just to see what they’ve posted now. YT definitely changed up their algorithm and it’s useless for me now. It doesn’t present anything I’m interested in.
before, if I clicked on a new video it might show me a few videos after that which fit the same theme/category. Now if I watch one fucking video it completely floods my algorithm with the same shit back to back. I have different accounts on every device I watch something on (like in the kitchen when cooking, etc) and they're so fucking drastically different in the feed it's insane.
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A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJEFun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
When he returns the cooler block he damaged and stole, I'll stop trying to turn people away from his content.
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Where did Linus touch you? You still keep referring to some magic videos but you can't say one example. He is living rent free in your head and you are trying your best. You tech Jesus fan boy or something?
Go on and explain what's the worst thing he has done? I'm your words, not some long boring gossip video about nothing.
Funny you should bring up touching people in that context, because sexual harassment is the reason LTT stopped producing videos for awhile.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy
Of course, that article also covers the Gamers Nexus investigation into LTT taking money to give biased reviews.
I would keep going, but we both know you aren't going to read or watch those videos, so this comment is more for the other people who might be curious about it. And honestly I think your behavior makes the argumens against LTT look better, for no other reason than assholes tend to be followed by smaller, less famous assholes.
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A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJEFun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
I wonder if it has to do with ad fatigue. Watching YouTube without a block is like going to an orgy with a bunch of ppl with STIs
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Funny you should bring up touching people in that context, because sexual harassment is the reason LTT stopped producing videos for awhile.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy
Of course, that article also covers the Gamers Nexus investigation into LTT taking money to give biased reviews.
I would keep going, but we both know you aren't going to read or watch those videos, so this comment is more for the other people who might be curious about it. And honestly I think your behavior makes the argumens against LTT look better, for no other reason than assholes tend to be followed by smaller, less famous assholes.
wrote last edited by [email protected]LTT had a 3rd party investigate that and there was nothing wrong but that doesn't matter to you does it?
In August 2024, former Linus Tech Tips (LTT) social media manager Madison Reeve made allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior in a tweet thread. LTT hired an outside investigator and conducted a review, which found no evidence to support Reeve's claims. The investigation did find some administrative errors and misunderstandings during Reeve's onboarding
Again Steve and Louis do a podcast together and facts don't matter. Steve is upset at Linus for being ignored at an event and he Louis to write a hit piece. This is obvious why you don't want to type any exact issues because the bad stuff has been proven as false allegations.
