Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan
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Buddy, they've never been allowed back before. Why would the ideals allow them back now?
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Yup. This is way too consistent not to be getting pushed from somewhere. Literally every bit of Gaza news is just a bloody rag to be used to blame the left to these guys. It's getting disgusting. And they're alienating people instead of bringing them together
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Well now you have to take them in.
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Not ironic it all.
The US condemns China for the treatment of the Uyghurs. US good, China bad.
China condemns the US for the treatment of the Palestinians. China good, US bad.
Both countries don't give a shit about either.
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Staying mad at the DNC however is both understandable and rational, and has the potential to drive change if you allow yourself to channel it into something productive.
So much fucking this. The DNC has to learn from past mistakes or this shit is going to keep happening, and unless people are mad at them, they won't even think to change.
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I don't think China (the government) actually cares. Just like the US supporting Ukraine, the US (the government) does not actually care about Ukrainians.
Russia - Ukraine conflict
Israel - Palestine conflict
Its all just a chess game to become (or remain) the superpower
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Don't worry, trump is gonna move them to the US, and not give them any documents, then be like "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" and send them to Guantanamo doing slave labor.
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me downvote instead of argue
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And your question is still fundamentally flawed.
We don't get to vote for a candidate for the US of A that has the Palestinian people at the front of their agenda.
The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all. Those that are US citizens chose to throw away their vote so they're in the same camp as those who are not US citizens for the sake of the conversation/argument.
So, of the candidates that were presented, you have to choose the lesser of the two Evils (LEV) to have the greatest chance of accomplishing your goals, even if none of the options specifically further your goals. It's about limiting the fallout/damage to your goals as much as possible.
This is something the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose not to do.
It is now why they are facing a much more serious threat from the US than they were during Biden's administration. This is not to absolve the Biden/Harris administration, but to show that the reason things are worse now, is because, in large part, the Palestinian people who were US citizens chose the worse of the two options by not exercising their right to vote.
At no point in the process was there an option that would have accomplished what the Palestinian people would have wanted. To let the greater evil win because of that is going to be a very, very painful lesson for everyone involved, and I feel for the Palestinian people that are now going to be guaranteed to lose their home, their rights, and their freedoms because the new US Administration has even less respect and care for their rights than Biden's.
So, back to your question.
The flaw is in assuming there was another option other than the LEV scenario playing out, and that the Palestinian people who were not US citizens had a vote here. They did not. They do not have enough power, militaristicly speaking, to have autonomy over their own region, and are unfortunately at the mercy of Israel and their close allies (e.g. the USA right now), to control their fate/future.
They had some influence, in the form of Palestinian Americans and allies who could have voted and chosen a less evil/less terrible path ahead, and they flubbed things in the name of making a point. A point that has had little to no impact, and in fact has galvanized a lot of Americans and the world against them because their poor decision during the US election is going to affect everyone in the world. There is nowhere they can run to, or will be safe from the reach of trump's US imperialism.
Your question is therefore flawed. It assumes the Palestinian people had any option other than Kamala to give them the best possible scenario forward. To claim otherwise is to be ignorant of the world, and the facts of the situation. Just because we all agree that having "no choice" sucks and isn't fair, doesn't mean refusing to vote and letting the worst option (by far) on the table win is anything more than disappointingly idiotic.
And that's where we're at now.
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Was up for more than 6 hours.
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Stop making it about Biden then.
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no, it's not. harm reduction is when you recognize the bad thing is going to happen and you do something to mitigate the problem.
