In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

[highduc@lemmy.ml]

Orange Man Bad

[hasturinyellow@lemmy.world]

That's still a choice though.

[shepherdpie@midwest.social]

You used that line already. Odd that such an intelligent being as yourself couldn't formulate some new material.

[aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

These useful idiots are working very hard in making sure that no political lessons will be learned and that next time the DNC will present the American people with yet another ever-so-slightly-less-Fascism-loving candidate than the Republicans.

Just like Trump and the Republican Party leadership has muppets dangling from their strings which will gleefully wallow on the pain and misery of others to defend their leaders, so does the Democrat Party leadership have their own muppets dangling from their strings who with just as much glee wallow in the pain and misery of other to defend their leaders.

People whose response to the actions of one killer is to say "should've voted for our killer instead" have literally no sense of proportion or empathy.

[chiliedogg@lemmy.world]

Maybe them draining the Calofornia reservoirs used to irrigate crops during the summer to cause widespread crop failures and drive up food prices massively in a few months.

They're actively trying to cripple the country to please Putin.

[spookyghost@sh.itjust.works]

If this isn't bad, what is, douche?

[nomy@lemmy.zip]

Find Palestine on a map made after 1960 pls.

[friend_of_satan@lemmy.world]

Punk rock predicted this.

Propagandhi - Halle Salasse Up Your Ass

"The West Bank, The Gaza Strip, soon will be parking lots for American tourists, and fascist cops"

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

This is like saying giving a murderer a knife is the same as going in with a machine gun yourself.

I know you're trying to be profound here, but in this case, it is exactly the same. Genocide Joe very reliably delivered WMD's to Israel during his term in full knowledge that it was a vastly unpopular decision, up until his last day. The news reported something like 80 people killed in the days between the signing of the ceasefire and Biden leaving office.

Whether it's the US or Israel doing the squatting in Gaza, the results are the same.

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

You're accusing me of something I never did. I'm asking because pretty much all the blame I've seen is put on those protest voters and the topic of non-voters rarely, if ever, comes up in these comments.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I very specifically said "people like you" because I did not know if you were amongst the people I was talking about.

[goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org]

Just like it was their choice to do the opposite of whatever got them enthusiasm

the party can never fail only be failed

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

To me saying "people like you" implies similarity between "them" and the person you're saying it to but whatever.

To reiterate, I don't think these people are blameless (every bit of resistance counts after all) but I feel like for many normal people, politicians and media commentators, they (pro-Palestinian protesters, LGBT folks etc) became a scapegoat that completely stole the focus from all the rest of the potential voters who didn't feel strongly enough to oppose an openly fascist candidate. It's just weird to see.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

I don't think they are being a scapegoat at all. I think they are being told they share in the blame. And they refuse to admit it, some to the point of saying ludicrous things like "ethnic cleansing isn't as bad as genocide and Harris wanted genocide."

There is a lot of blame to be shared.

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

That's another thing I didn't see brought up nearly enough. Granted, I'm not extremely tuned into American media so maybe it is a hot topic there but yeah, thanks for mentioning it.

[redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com]

Enjoy watching the Palestinian people get eradicated because you couldn't vote against it.

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

It's not just lemmy, it's something I've seen on other sites as well as traditional media (repeated by news anchors, commentators and even politicians). It's just weird to me that the focus is on such a small number of voters instead of those who simply didn't care enough/were prevented from voting/weren't successfully convinced by the democrats.

[spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I want to say I'm amazed at the shit fucking takes to justify awful choices that directly lead to a fascist overthrow in response to your comment. But these types love to justify their choices even though they directly lead to an open fascist takeover of our country because BoTh SiDeS bAd because they couldn't be bothered to engage in harm reduction and are ok with Gaza getting glassed and a probable trans genocide at home.

Fuck anyone who uses genocide to justify the situation where we now get more genocide, they never actually cared about it in the first place aside from talking points. Either that, or talk is more important than action. Either way, their opinions are meaningless to me as I help my trans homies survive.

[eatspancakes84@lemmy.world]

We are 16 days in the Trump presidency and he has announced that he will clean the Gaza Strip from Palestinians. So within the first 16 days he has proven that the GOP has a radically different Middle East policy than Democrats, and you still continue to lie and state that both sides are the same. I am guessing you will keep this BoTH SiDeS conviction even if Trump nukes Gaza.

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

Perhaps I'm just unlucky enough to stumble mostly on comments focusing on them. I was however lucky enough I didn't have to read explanations like the one you've quoted here yet.

There is a lot of blame to be shared.

That's for sure.