In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

[cornelius_wangenheim@lemmy.world]

Silence is consent when it comes to politics. Always has been; always will be.

[abidanyre@lemmy.world]

Minor ways? Are you fucking serious?

[bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You’re still running around shouting at people?

Stop it and let’s focus on what we are going to do now.

[sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz]

Now respond to the rest of my comment. You didn't even read it, did you.

[abidanyre@lemmy.world]

He's never going to love you no matter how hard you simp for him.

[spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

Sitting out was a choice as so was voting for murderers with blood on their hands.

So instead you get to keep your spotless morals while many, many more people die than would have if you made a realistic choice instead of throwing the voter equivalent of a tantrum

If you always make the good choice you will have no regrets because that is what you are supposed to do.

If you have no regrets with the way this turned out, I question the contents or existence of your morals.

I voted Kamala and have no regrets with my choice, only regrets aimed at the people who claim to be my compatriots condemning millions to suffering while being high and mighty about it.

[ptz@dubvee.org]

Nah. We had to listen to "gEnOcIDe jOe!!!1!" for the better part of a goddamn year from these people. I've got a LOT more "we fucking told you so" to get out of my system before I'm ready to move on let alone begin to forgive. The threat that is now reality was fully apparent, and these single-issue people still decided to hold the country hostage to "teach the dems a lesson". Fuck them.

[jimmy90@lemmy.world]

and by not picking either "evil" you allowed the worse one to win causing additional harm and suffering, and you're comfortable with that

you chose nothing thinking your inaction was the start of the great revolution that will fix the world

i'm thinking logic is not your strong suit

[openstars@piefed.social]

Bold to presume that they were telling the truth when they said that they thought that BoTh SiDeS sAmE.

For me personally, I believe that they just might have been lying, and did not - in fact - believe their own BS at all.

Like this one from you-can-guess-who on Lemmy.ml:

They spoke, some people did not think critically and believed it, and now here we are. Lemmy is minor leagues, but the sAmE happening in the major leagues like X & Facebook etc. seem to have carried the day. Perhaps now people will start to think strategically. Or... probably not even now. Sad.:-(

[bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You are nuts. The election was in November and you are still shouting at a little minority of potential allies who you can’t even be sure have voted for Trump. Like someone else said: It’s like you’re hoping for things to get worse just to be able to say “I told you so” over and over again.

[highduc@lemmy.ml]

Great band! Awesome to see them mentioned.🤩

[ptz@dubvee.org]

I'm not saying they voted for Trump, but they were certainly sowing division against the only candidate likely to defeat him at the polls.

"Not Trump" was NOT a choice on the ballot, and the single, actual candidate with the most votes wins. Any vote not FOR Harris was a tacit vote for Trump. No third party was going to win, and abstaining is effectively saying "BoTh SiDeZ aRE tHe SAmE!".

They had a chance to help stop this and chose to do anything but. Again, fuck them.

Like someone else said: It’s like you’re hoping for things to get worse just to be able to say “I told you so” over and over again.

That person is an idiot (I say this not even reading their comment).

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

I am.

Biden's presidency was so similar to the prior one that millions of workers who'd voted previously didn't even see the point in going to the polls.

[bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?

It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.

[flashmobofone@lemmy.world]

It's nice to see that Democrats suddenly care about genocide.

You all were perfectly accepting of it under Genocide Joe, and even nominated him to be your presidential candidate. You're also conveniently just ignoring that the genocide continued until the literal last day of his presidency.

[tetravega@lemmings.world]

Trump doesn't speak for his citizens. "Trump" is the one who wants it

[highduc@lemmy.ml]

I don't simp for him, fuck that scumbag.
But I think issues are more complicated than that, because for example Democrats actively supported the genocide too, so it's not just 1 bad guy.

[ptz@dubvee.org]

Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?

Yes and no. The people who did nothing but repeat and amplify that? Sowing division (see GiveSomeFucks, Return2Ozma, etc)

The people who made valid points but weren't beating that drum continuously? Legit criticism.

Either way, at the time, it was Biden or Trump, and the same two potential outcomes: Status quo or speedrun to fascism. There really shouldn't have been a dilemma.

It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.

Good luck to them then. I'll definitely be fighting, but I will absolutely not be working with the "oops, I accidentally helped bring fascism by completely failing to acknowledge the bigger picture" crowd - they're on their own

[blackmist@feddit.uk]

That is a shock. I expected him to just bomb it to dust and bulldoze it into the sea.

[shiroininja@lemmy.world]

You sound like one of the idiots my grandfather tried to warn in Germany in the 1920s before he got the fuck out and came to America on forged papers on a Japanese fishing boat