In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip
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You’re still running around shouting at people?
Stop it and let’s focus on what we are going to do now.
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Bold to presume that they were telling the truth when they said that they thought that BoTh SiDeS sAmE.
For me personally, I believe that they just might have been lying, and did not - in fact - believe their own BS at all.
Like this one from you-can-guess-who on Lemmy.ml:
They spoke, some people did not think critically and believed it, and now here we are. Lemmy is minor leagues, but the sAmE happening in the major leagues like X & Facebook etc. seem to have carried the day. Perhaps now people will start to think strategically. Or... probably not even now. Sad.:-(
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You are nuts. The election was in November and you are still shouting at a little minority of potential allies who you can’t even be sure have voted for Trump. Like someone else said: It’s like you’re hoping for things to get worse just to be able to say “I told you so” over and over again.
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Great band! Awesome to see them mentioned.🤩
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Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?
It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.
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Trump doesn't speak for his citizens. "Trump" is the one who wants it
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I don't simp for him, fuck that scumbag.
But I think issues are more complicated than that, because for example Democrats actively supported the genocide too, so it's not just 1 bad guy. -
Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?
Yes and no. The people who did nothing but repeat and amplify that? Sowing division (see GiveSomeFucks, Return2Ozma, etc)
The people who made valid points but weren't beating that drum continuously? Legit criticism.
Either way, at the time, it was Biden or Trump, and the same two potential outcomes: Status quo or speedrun to fascism. There really shouldn't have been a dilemma.
It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.
Good luck to them then. I'll definitely be fighting, but I will absolutely not be working with the "oops, I accidentally helped bring fascism by completely failing to acknowledge the bigger picture" crowd - they're on their own
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You sound like one of the idiots my grandfather tried to warn in Germany in the 1920s before he got the fuck out and came to America on forged papers on a Japanese fishing boat
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I don't know, definitely feels like the democrats passively supported, while Trump seems to want to participate.
Can't say the democrats were making the right choice, but Trumps stance is objectively worse.
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We need systems where we vote for policies rather than parties.
Absolutely nothing will be fixed until we do.
