In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip
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Were people saying Biden was too old also sowing division or were they just criticising?
Yes and no. The people who did nothing but repeat and amplify that? Sowing division (see GiveSomeFucks, Return2Ozma, etc)
The people who made valid points but weren't beating that drum continuously? Legit criticism.
Either way, at the time, it was Biden or Trump, and the same two potential outcomes: Status quo or speedrun to fascism. There really shouldn't have been a dilemma.
It doesn’t matter. We’re in this shit now. And have to somehow act together to get out of it again.
Good luck to them then. I'll definitely be fighting, but I will absolutely not be working with the "oops, I accidentally helped bring fascism by completely failing to acknowledge the bigger picture" crowd - they're on their own
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That is a shock. I expected him to just bomb it to dust and bulldoze it into the sea.
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I don't know, definitely feels like the democrats passively supported, while Trump seems to want to participate.
Can't say the democrats were making the right choice, but Trumps stance is objectively worse.
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We need systems where we vote for policies rather than parties.
Absolutely nothing will be fixed until we do.
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Or you could stop and build a string coalition with an action plan.
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Ah yes the black and white both sides bad argument. You do know it's possible for one side to be worse right? So much worse.
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If you call a cease fire, hostage release, and two state solution as "supported the genocide" then... I guess?
I wouldn't call it that though. You do you I guess.
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Nope. It is dead correct. If you were eligible to vote and you did not vote then you should feel horrible. You should feel attacked. You should feel like everyone hates you. They do. You decided that fascism wasn't important enough to vote against. You decided to go "Well both sides suck" when one side was actively planning genocide and destruction of the United States.
You do not get to have a say. Why? Because you didn't vote. You decided not to use your voice so guess what? You don't get to have one here.
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You're complicit in the result, correct.
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Thank you for conclusively proving you have literally no idea what you're talking about. You are what is wrong with America. You are not educated.
"Genocide Joe" wasn't able to stop sending bombs. When Trump stopped sending military aid to Ukraine he was impeached. Why? Because it is illegal to impeded a congressional approval. It was congress that approved the weapons to Israel. Biden had literally no choice. The most he could do, which he did, was stop the bombs from being sent for longer and longer periods. Put them in areas where they had to be inspected because it was the only thing he could do. Slow it down.
And here you are screaming that he should have stopped sending anything, concretely proving that you have fallen for every scrap of propaganda.
Congratulations.
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It might be different elsewhere but I can only speak to what I see on lemmy, and it seems appropriate here. I don’t check out other sites or watch the news enough to notice their talking points, so I can’t speak on that. I do know that I saw similar calls for protest voting in 2016, and they left a strong negative impression on me.
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Yup. It is incredible at how deeply they've fallen for propaganda. Like Joe Biden being the one to send bombs like he personally wrapped the package. No one is blaming Congress, the people who actually approved the transfer of weapons. Nah. They wanna blame the President for not illegally stopping a transfer and opening himself up for impeachment like Trump did.
These people have no understanding of the US political system. They just scream and cry because they saw a few Youtube Shorts or TikToks and think they're suddenly educated. That they can blame the figurehead for everything.
It is insane. Biden was the most progressive President the United States has had in decades and every single fuckwit bought the propaganda that the Right Wing was pushing. Was he perfect? God no. But he was miles better than Obama was but nah. Lets just scream about how awful he is because his hands were tied on Israel/Palestine, a problem that has absolutely no answer that doesn't rip the fabric of someones world.
Children.
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List the ways in which Democrats actively supported genocide. Go ahead.
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Did you do anything to stop the violent ego maniac in the White House? No? Then you've cooperated with him.
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Funny to see them cry over 3rd party that at least showed up and helped dems get seats, instead of the people who didn’t come out to vote because the DNC can’t energise anyone saying the same nothing will change bullshit
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I think you mean if people understood inflation was caused by the pandemic and Trumps monetary policy we wouldn't be here.
The number one factor in the election was the economy. Sadly, regarding Palestine, I think democrats would loss as many votes as they gained by taking a harder stance.
