In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip
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I hear what you're trying to say, but honestly no. Not when I've been hearing that American literacy has been going down and most college kids nowadays can't even read a whole book; and not when I mention several times that Trump is worse for Americans - and I even made an explicit mention of Trump censoring scientists, which is a case where he banned words such as "LGBTQ+" from scientific papers - and then someone replied lecturing me about how much worse Trump would be for Trans people and Americans. Like, yeah, no shit, I said that.
I think people just saw I disagreed with whatever stance they had and got angry, got even angrier when they saw how much of an ass I was being (in my defence, I wasn't an ass first, and I was sick of reading the same fucking comment under every Palestine thread) and just skimmed most of what I said and proceed to try to argue with me without even trying to understand what I said.
Which frankly makes these conversations exhausting for me, because I'm actually trying to read what people are saying and replying, but most replies I get seem to not put any effort in turn.
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People like you, are why I moved away.
Sure you could just be another Russian troll.
But I knew way too many fucking idiots like you in real life too years ago as to know there's a good chance that you're not a troll.
The only consolidation I have is that dumbasses like you will suffer along with the rest, even if not as much as you deserve compared to those who knew better.
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A lot of the people who are defending the DNC are not the ones decrying it.
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Assuming everyone here is American really makes me think you're blaming the wrong party.
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Well, I got lambasted for not being American and having an opinion on the topic, and the person who did it got quite highly upvoted. What conclusion would you draw? Plus I also recognize your username and (while I'm not 100% sure) I'm pretty confident you are American too. And to my knowledge Americans made up the bulk of Lemmy. Seems like a safe assumption to make
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I am a dual national and I am currently in Blackburn, Lancashire, UK.
But I think that you have shown that you care much more about being right than you do about being understood, so I think I can move on.
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That's just a sound bite. Trump just said it, nothing is being done to bring it about.
What is being done is systematically gutting and disabling key government departments and seizing control over the treasury and hiring process, without any legal basis. -
But I think that you have shown that you care much more about being right than you do about being understood,
Why do people always love to project so much
I made it explicitly clear I thought Trump was worse several times. I could not have been more clear if I had made a drawing. And I know that you realized that, because at one point your tone completely changed, and you got a lot less condescending and confrontational than you had been before. But you still can't just say "my bad, sorry, I just had a knee-jerk reaction when you criticized the Dems".
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What makes you think nothing is being done to bring it about? How could you possibly know?
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And plenty more were sent by Dems over the years.
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I've already linked to these in this thread, but it's depressing that anyone is making that argument anyway:
Also, wiki page on the occupation of the West Bank
- As I said in another comment: two people stomp on you; one calls you a slur, the other says they want the violence to end, but neither stops stomping on you. What does it matter what they say?
And you have a very bad impression. As I have mentioned several times:
I'm not American (therefore I can't "sit out the election"); I have made it clear several times that Trump is much worse than Kamala in everyway except Palestine; I never (and I encourage you to go through my Lemmy history if you don't believe me) never told anyone to not vote for Kamala - in fact I once even said she might be the most left leaning American president in a long time; and I have also argued with a lot of Trumpists online.
So, to put it mildly, your impression of me is off.
At what point will you accept that Trump is really worse than Kamala would have been?
For Palestine specifically? I'm not sure he can be. Would the Nazis have been better if instead of putting people in concentration camps they just shot them in the streets, bombed them, and starved them? If you believe so, then you could make an argument that concentration camps would be the threshold; but personally I'm not convinced there is much of a difference.
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You could have stopped Biden at any time since October 2023
How?
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Yeah the shooting in Sweden is getting buried by news like this. Not that the situation in Gaza isn’t terrible or that the US isn’t a terrible country to be in, but stil
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The US shouldn’t be considered a single country. The EU has way more in common between it’s members and acts more like one country than the US.
Breaking it up in 50 different states is probably gonna cause a war I see that.
Slowly the US (which has been a terrible country for a lot of people) is dying and pulling others down. The US has pushed it’s bullshit into way to many countries it is not even funny.
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I was well aware of it. Talking about the global spotlight. MSM coverage. That is when real change is possible.
That change in the analogy does not work because they were already going after all Palestinians, my dude. So who is the family is this analogy?
Well, they weren't. They ramped up settlements in the west bank, using the tricks they learned in Gaza, and now are going to ethnically clense the entire population of gaza. The analogy holds.
Clearly you and I just disagree on a fundamental level. I don’t care what noises someone makes with their mouth while committing heinous acts, and I do not see a moral difference between committing a genocide and arming the people that you know are committing a genocide. Would you also make excuses for the people who knowingly worked with Nazis and made weapons for them?
Well there is a difference, of course. Not everything is binary, there is always nuance. I'd tell you to vote for the nazi' if they were running against a worse oponent, yes. Just like I'd suggest voting for Trump if he was running against Hitler.
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To hear him speak of it, there's nothing left to bomb.
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Yeah, I'm not from or in the US which is why my question was mostly about what I've seen online and some media snippets. I have no idea about IRL sentiment, though I assume it varies like with everything.
