In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

[stovetop@lemmy.world]

To hear him speak of it, there's nothing left to bomb.

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

Yeah, I'm not from or in the US which is why my question was mostly about what I've seen online and some media snippets. I have no idea about IRL sentiment, though I assume it varies like with everything.

[grundlbutter@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I honestly don't think division is the intention of most folks like myself, I think it's a venting of frustration and an honest plea for people to reflect on the past so that history doesn't repeat itself immediately.

Maybe some people want an apology, but that sounds silly. Personally I just want to see reflection and a commitment to avoiding the same issue going forward. Cause I'm gonna be blunt, it's impossible to please everyone in a 2 party system, and I guarantee you the Democrats are going to disappoint you next time, but can we agree that they are better than the alternative? And can we embrace the reality of the 2 party system while we strive to improve it?

[essence_of_meh@lemmy.world]

See, that's kind of what I'm talking about. Based on the results I've seen, all the votes for independent candidates combined amounted to less than 2% of all counted votes. Do you really think those 2% had a bigger impact on the end result than the 90 or so million of people who didn't vote at all?

I'm not saying they had no impact, it just feels weird to focus so much on those who cared enough to take part in the democratic process while treating the rest as a secondary issue.

To clarify, this is just my observation based on internet comments and some news snippets I've seen. I understand things might look different IRL and from a perspective of someone in the middle of this madness.

[generalemergency@lemmy.world]

Shock

To people who weren't paying attention probably

[jimmy90@lemmy.world]

praise be! the lord hath blessed you with the true internal sight where not getting involved absolves you of any culpability. hail hail the great one! you shall never touch evil or be sullied in any way.

YOU ARE PURE!!!!!

[thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev]

What's the point of saying that here? If you're an American who could vote and you're on Lemmy there's a 99.9% chance you voted blue. But even if that weren't the case, all of this transpired while we had a Democrat in office, so it's just a horrible continuation of an already existing trend

[thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev]

I mean my vote hasn't mattered in the last 2 elections. My state hasnt flipped blue since Obama. There's a lot of situations where voting is a waste of time. Making that not be true is what's going to increase voter turnout, not trying to shame them for something they're not responsible for

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Inaction is still a choice, so not voting means you’re ok with this. Voting or not voting, you still made your choice in November and here we are.

The choice not to support a rigged as fuck system that needs to go for the sake of humanity. You are not supposed to vote for any murderer of any scale under any circumstances. When the choice is between two murderers it's time for plan B

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Now, Trump and Elon dominate the news cycle.

The news cycle has been dominated by a bunch of people in bed with the government for a long time. The genocide is gaza is already as bad as you would expect a genocide to be but media and governments are making really hard for you to to see the pictures of mutilated kids.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

When the choice is between two murderers throwing your vote away and not support any of them is the equivalent of doing the good thing.

I voted Kamala and have no regrets with my choice,

Search for the pictures of the kids that died or got mutilated by israel government with the full support of US government and you may start to feel remorse toward the whole system that made this possible.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

And you sound like an idiot using a poor comparison to defend scum as bad as the nazis.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Breaking the red and blue duopoly is achieved by not supporting red and blue.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.

See previous message.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

So lemme get this straight. The Democrats are the Nazis here, not the people literally throwing up a seig heil?

You really have no say in this conversation.

[shepherdpie@midwest.social]

There's the delusion again. The only way to involve yourself is by participating in the rigged game? Yeah I don't think so.

[samus12345@lemm.ee]

[index@sh.itjust.works]

You can try to blame people who didn't vote the red and blue party as much as you want but they are not going to feel horrible because they didn't support any murderer. You seem to be projecting a lot of resentment perhaps deep down you don't feel happy about your choice?

[tokenboomer@lemmy.world]

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance. You can try to herd cats until the cows come home, but it only leaves you frustrated and drained. We can only educate ourselves, and try to educate others.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance.

And how do you fix that?

VOTE.

My blame is accurately placed.