In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

[thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev]

What's the point of saying that here? If you're an American who could vote and you're on Lemmy there's a 99.9% chance you voted blue. But even if that weren't the case, all of this transpired while we had a Democrat in office, so it's just a horrible continuation of an already existing trend

[thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev]

I mean my vote hasn't mattered in the last 2 elections. My state hasnt flipped blue since Obama. There's a lot of situations where voting is a waste of time. Making that not be true is what's going to increase voter turnout, not trying to shame them for something they're not responsible for

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Inaction is still a choice, so not voting means you’re ok with this. Voting or not voting, you still made your choice in November and here we are.

The choice not to support a rigged as fuck system that needs to go for the sake of humanity. You are not supposed to vote for any murderer of any scale under any circumstances. When the choice is between two murderers it's time for plan B

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Now, Trump and Elon dominate the news cycle.

The news cycle has been dominated by a bunch of people in bed with the government for a long time. The genocide is gaza is already as bad as you would expect a genocide to be but media and governments are making really hard for you to to see the pictures of mutilated kids.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

When the choice is between two murderers throwing your vote away and not support any of them is the equivalent of doing the good thing.

I voted Kamala and have no regrets with my choice,

Search for the pictures of the kids that died or got mutilated by israel government with the full support of US government and you may start to feel remorse toward the whole system that made this possible.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

And you sound like an idiot using a poor comparison to defend scum as bad as the nazis.

[index@sh.itjust.works]

Breaking the red and blue duopoly is achieved by not supporting red and blue.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.

See previous message.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

So lemme get this straight. The Democrats are the Nazis here, not the people literally throwing up a seig heil?

You really have no say in this conversation.

[shepherdpie@midwest.social]

There's the delusion again. The only way to involve yourself is by participating in the rigged game? Yeah I don't think so.

[samus12345@lemm.ee]

[index@sh.itjust.works]

You can try to blame people who didn't vote the red and blue party as much as you want but they are not going to feel horrible because they didn't support any murderer. You seem to be projecting a lot of resentment perhaps deep down you don't feel happy about your choice?

[tokenboomer@lemmy.world]

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance. You can try to herd cats until the cows come home, but it only leaves you frustrated and drained. We can only educate ourselves, and try to educate others.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

I understand the emotional appeal to blaming individuals for their action/inaction, but the fault lies with the system of governance.

And how do you fix that?

VOTE.

My blame is accurately placed.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

See previous comment.

You don't vote? You don't get to have a say in the conversation. You have willingly silenced yourself for the next 4 years. Sorry!

[index@sh.itjust.works]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Globke

Most governments around the world are ruled by villains consumed by greed and lust of power. If you support and fuel a genocide you are bad on pairs as nazi regardless of your country or political agenda. The government of israel by definition can't be nazi but they are committing crimes as the nazi were.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

As said, you have no say in this conversation.

[tokenboomer@lemmy.world]

I’ve been voting for 40 years, and look where we are. I understand the desire for change, but have to remind myself not to fall victim to electoral fetishism. Real, lasting change, can only come from social movements by the people.

[stamets@lemmy.world]

Yes. This is true. Do you know how you effect those social movements in the government?

By voting.

You cannot argue that you are trying to participate in a social change of government by not engaging in that system of government. It is what is there. If you want to change it, you either need a full on revolution or active social change effected through voting in of various representatives that actually represent you and are willing to change those laws. True, you cannot fall to electoral fetishism, but that doesn't mean to just ignore it entirely.

So. Once again, I am blaming the voters which is an accurate blame to place. Why? Because they are uneducated, hostile, or hateful. They do not engage in the voting system, they engage in spectacle. Whether that be by posting random comments like this Index person who is blatantly a Russian or by throwing a hissy fit but not doing anything.

The reason this cycle keeps continuing is because voters do not educate themselves and vote for their best interests. It is just as simple as that. Straight up. It isn't complex. There isn't some massive conspiracy. People just do not bother.

[slopppyengineer@lemmy.world]

On the road. No time for finding the perfect example. Take that as evidence of absence if you want.