In shock announcement, Trump says U.S. wants to take over Gaza Strip

[jeebaichow@lemmy.world]

Well, this is involuntary ethnic relocation for the sake of American real estate tycoon wannabes. Not genocide at all. Nosireebob.

[shepherdpie@midwest.social]

"It's a fucking war that's why we need to give them bombs, arms, jets, cash, and our full support. It's our only option"

Look, I get it, and I'd be grieving too if I openly supported such atrocities, and it all turned out to be for nothing, but you're eventually going to find yourself standing alone with the other RadLibs as nobody finds diet-Republican ideals appealing.

[aaron@lemm.ee]

Well, both.

[aaron@lemm.ee]

Just fuck off. This was your choice.

[warl0k3@lemmy.world]

I feel like there's very little chance you intentionally misinterpreted my comment, so in the interest of keeping civil discourse alive: what's happening in Palestine isn't a war, it's a massacre, and I was referring to the nascent civil war and fascist takeover of the US.

[goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org]

Seems to most in this thread dnc is faultless though

[aaron@lemm.ee]

Vote hard? The 'liberal' side was worried about gestures broadly at what's actually happening in reality right this very moment. Lemmy isn't an island, it's a megaphone.

[aaron@lemm.ee]

I hear you... I see tons of dnc hate here too

[gullible@sh.itjust.works]

Full ballot, urging others to do the same.

Dude, this is a trans-positive communist Linux forum. We are far from representative of society at large. Lemmy is as much a megaphone as my mouth is a cup. Take a sip, if you dare.

[snowclone@lemmy.world]

It was a huge talking point before the election. We really needed to punish Democrats for not stopping Isreal.

[goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org]

Which many seem to not want to see or hear

[grimy@lemmy.world]

This is a thread about what Trump is currently doing and the most upvoted comment is blaming voters. I don't know what alienating people after the election serves. It's literally going to make sure they repeat the same behavior, doubly so if the dems feel confident enough to run on apathy a second time.

My point is that currently, most here seem to be vocal about the wrong thing. They voted stupidly but we're goaded into it by a party that clearly does not represent its constituantes anymore. We should be asking the party to change but we are doing the opposite.

[thetimeknife@lemmy.world]

"The gang saves Palestine"

Cue sunny intro

[aaron@lemm.ee]

It's a world filled with people who believe what feels good

[thetimeknife@lemmy.world]

It's not a genuine question, it's just another excuse to deflect responsibility. Why are we responsible for our actions, words and constant rhetoric? Its these other people who are to blame, that we knowingly supported with our actions.

[aaron@lemm.ee]

I guess we know where you stand then.

[orclev@lemmy.world]

Frankly I'm getting sick and tired of every story about Gaza being filled with smug comments blaming everything on liberal Lemmy members. Biden was a shit candidate who was losing badly before Gaza ever happened. Harris was a golden opportunity to pivot the Biden campaign into something that stood a chance of winning and instead Harris ran on a campaign of "I'm exactly like Biden but a little younger" which is the most gobsmackingly stupid decision of a political campaign in at least a couple decades.

Harris didn't lose because of Palestine. I mean it didn't fucking help, but there were plenty of other reasons she lost. So can we please stop with all the annoying smug "are you happy with what you did?" comments? It's getting really fucking old.

Now for what I actually wanted to say.

Besides billionaires and straight, white, conservative, "Christian" men, I honestly don't know who benefits from a Trump/Musk presidency as compared to a Harris/Walz presidency.

Only billionaires are benefiting. Straight, white, conservative, Christian or even men, none of those groups in any combination is benefiting. They may not be getting shafted as hard as others are, but only billionaires are going to see anything even remotely positive out of this.

[grundlbutter@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Sorry hearing "We told ya so" is so irritating to you. The collective focus will shift over time.

You're right, Harris absolutely lost because she wasn't good enough. But yeah, people are going to remind you that the alternative is worse, so that hopefully we can avoid this if there ever is a next time.

[ricecake@sh.itjust.works]

There's a lot of frustration at the segment of the population who 1) vocally said that Harris would be just as bad as trump in regards to Gaza 2) loudly argued that failure to listen to them in regards to Gaza would cost the Democrats the election, and 3) said that anyone who was willing to vote for Harris despite not perfectly walking the line in regards to Gaza was a supporter of genocide. "The lesser of two evils is still a vote for genocide", and "it's not like it can be more genocide" are both things that have been said to me.

So, according to the people in question: yes, they are that numerous. I'm incredibly sad that I seem to have been right, but also fuck you to all the absolute assholes who accused me of supporting genocide because I'd rather the president get a middling cease fire and shamefully keep sending munitions to Israel than have us actively send troops to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Congrats! You got what you wanted! No more war in Gaza, because we're going to finish it now.
Even if they're in they're not large enough to matter, electorally, they were consistently aggressively smug and superior to anyone who said that maybe trump wasn't going to be the savior of the Palestinians, as evidence by his explicit words.
It's cathartic to be mad at people who were condescending towards you when they were wrong, even if you'd rather not be right, purely because they called you a bad person for wanting the same thing but thinking their way to get it wouldn't work.

[someone@lemmy.ca]

Hmm, I'm worried to find out if we're talking a Fahrenheit/Celsius kinda scale where our expectations become negative at some point, or if it's more of a Kelvin where absolute 0 is the destruction of planet earth or life as we know it.