Netanyahu Gifts Trump Golden Pager to Commemorate Attack That Killed Children: 'That Was a Great Operation'

[zink@programming.dev]

Indeed. But you must always remember that the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for God men to do nothing…

— Alucard, lol

[zink@programming.dev]

I will be able to tell my grandchildren I voted directly against the horrors they will be* learning about in history class. No need for supporting arguments about how doing otherwise was a more genuine rejection of this fucked up system.

[frostysauce@lemmy.world]

Always has been.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Yes I think generally we both want the world to be better, and we have different views on how to achieve that goal.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

No my point was about harm mitigation

[rekorse@sh.itjust.works]

Oh no I missed the most important election?! Shit! I thought the last one was! And people said the one before that was too! Fuck! I'm just trying to vote how you all want me too, I'm not trying to be a bad democwat

Can't believe american propaganda is so powerful in the UK, makes me sad. Wanna be our 51st state?

[mongostein@lemmy.ca]

I hope this one blows up too

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

It's more likely to just be bugged, if he actually is going to use it.

[canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org]

What? That's the one that surprises you? They've killed more children on the average day post-invasion.

[gammelfisch@lemmy.world]

The Orange Turd needs cheeseburgers too.

[flyingsquid@lemmy.world]

If you don't understand why politicians celebrating the deaths of children out in the open surprises me more than their killing children, you have a very different opinion of which of those two is far more common than I do.

[papertowels@lemmy.one]

You CAN argue that, but could you look yourself in the mirror and say that's a good faith argument when you don't know how I voted for the last 50 years? That's a good sign that your argument is simply deflection, by making up a strawman you're hoping to avoid admitting that you had a role in getting trump elected. Your comment here indicates that you know you played a part, but I agree with you, the Democratic party put up a shit candidate and played a much larger part. My heart fell when Kamala indicated no policy changes in Palestine.

However, folks who ignored the effects of fptp voting to vote (or abstain) for the sake of their conscience do not have their hands clean of all of this. In seeking to protest a genocide, they have invited the start of a second genocide on our fellow citizens, as well as accelerated the original genocide they were protesting. These effects could've been seen from million miles away.

It strikes me as privileged to be able to ignore the predictable real world effects of a decision, in the name of maintaining a clean conscience. Sure, maybe in a few voting cycles, the vote made a difference. I hope so, but I don't think we've ever seen it happen historically. However, generally speaking, do not boast that your hands are clean of the trump administrations actions if your decisions (or lack of) in this election made it more likely for him to be elected. They are simply are not.