Netanyahu Gifts Trump Golden Pager to Commemorate Attack That Killed Children: 'That Was a Great Operation'

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Can't even make this shit up any more.

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Your link talk about apple though ?

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You should see the hasbarists that tried to tell me that the operation was highly successful since it killed the children of Hezbollah operators, and that was its intended victims. Basically these people consider children to be very valid and normal targets to the point that you are a fool for thinking it is wrong.

In all honesty at that point I am actually surprised at the restraint that Hamas and everyone else has had on them. Iran and even the Houthis defeated Israel's Iron Dome and David's Sling so many times it isn't funny, but they still act like it is some impenetrable forcefield that has never been defeated. Also all of the targets by Hezbollah and Iran have been purely military targets or symbolic while also pulling some major punches, while Israel targets civilians with wanton abandon and with the intent to do as much damage as possible to civilians and civilian infrastructure.

When Israel did get (mostly warhead-less) missiles launched at it, they expressed shock and acted as if Iran was some idiotic child-like state that did not understand that these are weapons that could hurt people. In the meantime they revel in the murder of children and civilians and even when releasing hostages as a part of their deal, they open fire at their buses.

And Israel has always been like this. It isn't new.

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That last bit was my thought too, I ain't taking a pager from that dude. Gold or otherwise.

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You do remember that this attack happened while Kamala was VP.

I would feel sick if the candidate I voted for was cheering Israel for massacring thousands of innocent people. May I remind you that the DNC barred the pro-Gaza crowd? May I remind you that Trump and Biden were competing on who is the closest Israeli ally?

Yep, having Trump as a president sucks, but at least my hands are not filled with blood.

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Did you vote for Kamala? Or did you allow trump to get elected? Guess what, your hands are stained with innocent blood either way.

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I was not complicit in getting either of them elected. My hands are clean, and so is my conscience.

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You had a choice to make, either vote for one of them, assuming you're American and can vote, or be complicit with whomever was elected. You can trick yourself into believing you had no impact on the outcome, but assume what I said earlier was true, you either helped trump get elected, and therefore have blood on your hands, or you voted against trump, and have blood on your hands, but less blood.

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this is an interesting stance. not a US citizen, but i live in a country where voting is mandatory. i assume you didnt vote?

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The result would be the same no matter the candidate. Gaza was razed to the ground while the democrats were in power. And not only that, but they actively backed the Israeli government. If we allow ourselves to betray our moral principles, then we are on a downwards spiral where each candidate can say and do whatever they want, as long as the candidate next to them is a tiny bit worse.

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There are not just two candidates in the US, although the establishment would prefer everyone to believe that.

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Hence why I said you had blood on your hands no matter what. This is where harm mitigation comes in, by not voting, you agree to whoever is elected, in this case trump who wants to further ethnic cleansing. This was the last election in the US as we know it. And trump isn't a "tiny bit worse".

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This is such a strange take, but a popular one among Americans it seems. There are many more elements to why Trump is president, structural incentives especially money in politics and the specific democratic process that involves the Electoral College, districts etc. I'm not American yet even I know about these... don't you guys? It's sad because it seems like you guys are fucked, and have no idea what you did wrong. The burgler is in the house and you all are trying to wrestle down a potted plant.

It's also absurd because the US markets itself as the world leader of democracy, but Democratic voters are saying, "Why didn't you vote with the Party? You shouldn't have exercised democracy!"

I know you don't speak for all Americans, but maybe you can shed some light on this.

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right but FPTP kinda ensures third party is negligible until it becomes the 'second party' right?

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Who said anything about not voting? There were not just two candidates last time I checked.

I agree to whoever gets elected, because that is how democracy works. As far as I am concerned that might be the last election in the US. period. And the Democratic Party is partly to blame.

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Unfortunately.

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Believe it or not the Democrats had machinations themselves that they had been working on a long time, and was very nasty. Rumor had it, Kamala would have no problem finalizing those plans, which is why she was ushered in without a primary and Joe was forced out. BOTH PARTIES HAVE GOT TO GO. The democrats enabled this level of power abuse because they wanted the power themselves, nothing was codified into law because they thought they would have the power. They are just as guilty of these current administrations actions because they themselves refuse to limit the powers and reach of branches of the government, they only ever extend them... And they did it because they had plans for that power, but you don't need to believe that, the evidence they allowed the power to exist is elected and likely xitting on truth right now, that's all you really need to believe, Democrats enabled this.

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Do you think maybe there are multiple reasons why Trump is president and one of them could possibly be because far more people sat out the election than could have swung it against him?

Also, you shouldn't vote with the party. You should vote against the fascist. I have no idea why that is confusing to you unless you vote for fascists.

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Voting for the only viable candidate that wasn't an overt fascist is empowering fascists. The democrats aren't solely to blame those who allowed a fascist dictator to come into power share the blame

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Not voting for candidate = voting for them.

Solid logic.

Telling people how they have to vote.

Also, solid logic.

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Netanyahu Gifts Trump Golden Pager to Commemorate Attack That Killed Children: 'That Was a Great Operation'