How does fascism happen?
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Its weird because we basically all agree its bad but its happening anyway. I keep feeling like someone should do something, but then like I'm someone and cant really do anything.
Are we all just waiting for someone to do something about it?
wrote last edited by [email protected]An echo chamber all agreeing that something is happening doesn’t mean it actually is. What “fascism” are you talking about that is actually happening?
Tell me, which side is trying to roll back freedom of speech? Which side wanted to round up the unvaccinated into camps? Which side said the unvaccinated should lose their jobs, be denied medical care, have their kids taken from them, and left for dead? Which camp routinely calls for violence and death towards the people that they disagree with?
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It's simple. Put greedy people in positions of power.
That’s communism. And capitalism. And every other government system.
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Dude, you are dealing with a liberal, not a moron. Remember, it doesn't matter if you're right if you sound like an asshole. We all were taught in school that Stalin was evil and bad just like Hitler therefore communism = fascism, and some of us were taught in school that Hitler was a socialist.
a liberal, not a moron
Same thing an increasingly large percentage of the time.
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It depends on blaming a minority group for problems that people face instead of addressing the problems. It's the natural progression of a system that enables sycophants.
Wealth is finite, the amount of currency in existence is finite. The rich benefit at the expense of the poor, the poor benefit at the expense of the rich.
If a leader is benefitting from worsening the lives of the poor, and doesn't want to change their goals, they need to distract the poor from the problems they need addressed. The most common way is to trick them into thinking an "expendible" minority is the cause, and the only solution is to erase them. This distraction also allows the leaders to further erode the rights of the poor in the process.
Until it all inevitably collapses, because a society where things only get worse for the vast majority are not sustainable
Wealth redistribution kills fascism
The amount of currency in existence is not finite lol.
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The amount of currency in existence is not finite lol.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It absolutely is finite, there is an economic theory that says wealth is theoretically infinite, but it's theory, not reality.
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I…. Love/Hate the fact that a lot of people complained that the ending of the book and the movie differed so much, and only few of those people actually understood the meaning of the book
...What book?
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It absolutely is finite, there is an economic theory that says wealth is theoretically infinite, but it's theory, not reality.
It absolutely isn’t. Currency is printed all the time lol.
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I've noted that. Tighten wages, blame the immigrants. Turn sentiment against them, gradually dehumanize them, then use force to ship them out. Apply to group of choice - foreign or domestic. 'Protecting rights' is just a rallying cry and a tool for the politicians.
The people crying for illegal immigrants to be allowed to stay are the ones who want wages to stay low, ironically. Illegals are used as dirt cheap labor because of their illegal status, and deporting them and only hiring legal citizens would drastically increase the average wage.
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That’s communism. And capitalism. And every other government system.
Congratulations, you understood the assignment.
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...What book?
wrote last edited by [email protected]The wave / die Welle
That experiment got a book and a movie
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It absolutely isn’t. Currency is printed all the time lol.
wrote last edited by [email protected]1 is a finite number
1+1 is a finite number
1+? Is a finite number, even if you don't know what it is
If you look at the amount of currency at any given point in time you can absolutely track every debt and dollar to a number, the fact that that number is always changing does not stop it from being finite.
You're really embarrassing yourself here
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I've always been curious how fascism takes hold, and how people like Hitler, Stalin. etc rise to power. Do people not see what is happening? Shouldn't hindsight, foresight and common sense kick in at some point? I used t think they were like mob bosses early on - anyone disagreeing with them ends up in a barrel, but surely were civilized and educated by now?
It seems the people don't want to jeopardize their comfortable livelihoods and individual lives so expect the 'powerful elected officials' to do their bidding. After all, the public gave them the power to do just that. Otoh, the politicians don't want to jeopardize their cushy jobs and accumulated power by challenging the majority, so are waiting for the public to start a jan6 situation so they can point and say, 'see, the people are unhappy so we should act'.
It's a shitstorm of no consequences and a man child hacking away at the country and no one seems to be doing anything meaningful. I'm literally watching fascism take place.
History/ psychology/ sociology majors care to chime in?
there are many ways it can happen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JgD8AhRjs
watch that and you'll have a better idea to the answer you're asking.
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1 is a finite number
1+1 is a finite number
1+? Is a finite number, even if you don't know what it is
If you look at the amount of currency at any given point in time you can absolutely track every debt and dollar to a number, the fact that that number is always changing does not stop it from being finite.
You're really embarrassing yourself here
wrote last edited by [email protected]So in your opinion, infinite doesn't exist? If you can keep printing money whenever you want, no, the amount of currency in existence is not finite. What is the limit of how much of a currency can be created? What is the limit of USD? If it's finite then you should be able to answer.
You’re really embarrassing yourself here
Not me who's doing that lol. You just said this lol....
1+? Is a finite number, even if you don’t know what it is
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Congratulations, you understood the assignment.
So all types of government lead to fascism?
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So in your opinion, infinite doesn't exist? If you can keep printing money whenever you want, no, the amount of currency in existence is not finite. What is the limit of how much of a currency can be created? What is the limit of USD? If it's finite then you should be able to answer.
You’re really embarrassing yourself here
Not me who's doing that lol. You just said this lol....
1+? Is a finite number, even if you don’t know what it is
Is human population infinite too? More babies are made all the time, i don't know if there's a limit to how many can be born
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I've always been curious how fascism takes hold, and how people like Hitler, Stalin. etc rise to power. Do people not see what is happening? Shouldn't hindsight, foresight and common sense kick in at some point? I used t think they were like mob bosses early on - anyone disagreeing with them ends up in a barrel, but surely were civilized and educated by now?
It seems the people don't want to jeopardize their comfortable livelihoods and individual lives so expect the 'powerful elected officials' to do their bidding. After all, the public gave them the power to do just that. Otoh, the politicians don't want to jeopardize their cushy jobs and accumulated power by challenging the majority, so are waiting for the public to start a jan6 situation so they can point and say, 'see, the people are unhappy so we should act'.
It's a shitstorm of no consequences and a man child hacking away at the country and no one seems to be doing anything meaningful. I'm literally watching fascism take place.
History/ psychology/ sociology majors care to chime in?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Mismanagement and misplaced grievances.
The former is the cause for 99% of the problems societies face.
Essentially, conmen will con useful idiots, and then the useful idiots will get mad at their peers instead of their rulers because it's easier.
Stupidity is also a major factor, because useful idiots aren't capable of understanding how they're being taken for a ride.
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Bigotry, that's how. People have problems, the economy is struggling. They need a scapegoat. So someone like Hitler or Trump convince them that all their problems are caused by jews or immigrants or LGBT people or some other minority group and that everything will be fixed by getting rid of that group
Why is the economy struggling while rich people live in luxury?
I'd say what's causing people grief is a bigger trigger for fascism than how they react to it.
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Or that all their problems are caused by and will be fixed by getting rid of all of the people who disagree with their ideologies and political allegiance. They call for censorship of those people, they try to get them de-platformed/fired and arrested for wrong-think, outlaw their ability to get any power, and they try to paint them as all sorts of horrible things and say that if you disagree then you’re also those horrible things.
Radicalisation, basically, and if you think it’s only one side doing it, you’re well on your way.
I agree.
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So in your opinion, infinite doesn't exist? If you can keep printing money whenever you want, no, the amount of currency in existence is not finite. What is the limit of how much of a currency can be created? What is the limit of USD? If it's finite then you should be able to answer.
You’re really embarrassing yourself here
Not me who's doing that lol. You just said this lol....
1+? Is a finite number, even if you don’t know what it is
Go back to middle school math, where they teach you the difference between infinite numbers and finite numbers
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So all types of government lead to fascism?
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, humanity leads to fascism without the correct controls in place. It's an unfortunate side effect of our "survival of the fittest" driving our evolution as a species. Since greed usually wins out, it was selected for in our species, and the only thing stopping it is our civility, which is rather new to our species as a whole.
