I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped
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Honestly? That sounds no different than living in the lowest income areas in the US.
That was my thought
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The country is Brazil.
If you are unfortunate enough to live in the favelas (aka: Very very poor in a big city), you'll be under their thrall.
But the little secret is that.... They end up being not that different from the government. They have their own 'laws', and if you follow them, you'll be left alone. Their protection rackets become like taxes, except instead of going to jail for not paying, you'll get tortured -- And you might even benefit from them in a way.
A friend of mine tells a story about doing social work in a favela, and how after years of neglect from the government resulting in kids from the place not getting vaccinated, the local crimelord bought the vaccines with his own money and had his own paralell vaccination campaign for everyone that was properly paying their protection money. Hopefully you won't catch a stray bullet when the illegal liege lord of your neighbourhood-fiefdom is at war with the police or another neighbourhood-fiefdom's illegal lord for the umpteenth time that year.
If you are not in the favela....
... Well.... If you buy weed from a dealer or borrow money from illegal lenders and don't pay your bills, they'll probably abduct you and break your legs.
If you do none of those things... You might get pickpocketed or mugged, but that is honestly the extent of interactions that I, a rich boy from the third world, have had with the criminal factions of my country. Muggings. Being threatened and told to hand over my phone (which I did, I'm not stupid). Having a gameboy swiped from my bag while at an anime con.
So it's basically just like the US.
Except I can probably be mugged in any city over 50k. Pickpocketing I've only really known about in big cities.
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People already bitch about not being able to go to Canada because they got a DUI. This is will absolutely cause someone's vacation plans to be fucked up. But more importantly this should be a policy of the EU and Mexico too.
Afaik place of employment doesn't come up when they scan the passport. Criminal records? Yes.
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Has been for quite a while, it's just that Americans have been told they're number 1 for so long and most of them don't travel so they don't see anything else.
I highly recommend foreign travel. For example Colombia seems to be completely developed in some places and stuck in the 1950's in other places.
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At this point Canada should be playing hard ball. Ban all visas from anyone working for those companies, or anyone who delivers services to those companies for as long as they work for those companies. If they lie about who they work for, the ban is permanent and they personally are not allowed to set foot in Canada ever.
Real hardball would be going after major stockholders in CC and GEO Group.
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You do not need a Canadian passport, a Canadian visa or an eTA to enter Canada if you are travelling with a valid U.S. passport.
https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1116&top=16
For tourist visits to Canada of less than 180 days, U.S. citizens do not need visas. Other types of travel generally require visas. Visit the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) website for current information.
They're imparting general information to the general public. You are absolutely on a tourist visa while you are there and they can (and do) deny entry and deport people. You do not have some kind of right to visit Canada just because you are American.
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Exactly. Our detention facilities are literally designed for torture. People will say they are simply built cheaply or carelessly, but I don’t buy it. These places are specifically designed to maximize psychological suffering. And there is absolutely no reason why they need to be that way.
Hey, the contractor said this was how they save money. Who cares if it's also torture amiright?
/s
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Afaik place of employment doesn't come up when they scan the passport. Criminal records? Yes.
They can absolutely get their hands on names and add them to the list of people not allowed to cross the border.
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They're imparting general information to the general public. You are absolutely on a tourist visa while you are there and they can (and do) deny entry and deport people. You do not have some kind of right to visit Canada just because you are American.
You can deny entry when they scan your passport and see your criminal record JFC. Or for whatever other reason. That's not the same as a visa JFC. I mean if you're going to literally ignore what's right in front of you. I've never seen such a stunning example of dunning kruger.
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never change leemy.
Would you have preferred they use a euphemism like "enhanced interrogation?"
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never change leemy.
never stop hating human rights abuses, miscarriages of justice, false imprisonment without due trial, torture, kidnapping, and tyranny? You got it, boss.
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So it's basically just like the US.
Except I can probably be mugged in any city over 50k. Pickpocketing I've only really known about in big cities.
Fuck I love Canada - I haven't been mugged in my entire life, and I have done lots of walking around dark cities
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Fuck I love Canada - I haven't been mugged in my entire life, and I have done lots of walking around dark cities
Most of us haven't been pickpocketed or mugged, but you hear about it in cities that approach 7 digits enough.
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You can deny entry when they scan your passport and see your criminal record JFC. Or for whatever other reason. That's not the same as a visa JFC. I mean if you're going to literally ignore what's right in front of you. I've never seen such a stunning example of dunning kruger.
You're right in the details, but I do have to question for how long.
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You're right in the details, but I do have to question for how long.
The detail? That a visa is not the same as allowing/denying entry? That's not detailed or complex information.
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The detail? That a visa is not the same as allowing/denying entry? That's not detailed or complex information.
From a high level, "There is a process by which undesirable people can be denied entry" covers both "A visa is required to enter the country" and "A passport and not being on a watchlist is required to enter the country." So yes, you're correct, no tourism visa is (currently) needed for Americans to enter Canada. Also, yes, the other guy is correct that mechanisms can relatively easily be put in place to stop undesirable Americans of a variety of types from entering the country.
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From a high level, "There is a process by which undesirable people can be denied entry" covers both "A visa is required to enter the country" and "A passport and not being on a watchlist is required to enter the country." So yes, you're correct, no tourism visa is (currently) needed for Americans to enter Canada. Also, yes, the other guy is correct that mechanisms can relatively easily be put in place to stop undesirable Americans of a variety of types from entering the country.
Mechanisms to deny entry is not a visa. He thinks it is and it's not. Period. I can't believe I need to have this conversation. Twice. I'm out.
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Mechanisms to deny entry is not a visa. He thinks it is and it's not. Period. I can't believe I need to have this conversation. Twice. I'm out.
You're the guy who is saying Americans wouldn't get work permits, yet a substantial number do every year. And while guards may not do that much, there are a lot of ancillary types who likely would. HR, facilities management, construction, security systems, and others I'm sure can and have opted to work in Canada at one time or other for a variety of reasons.
So there, now you both can be wrong, too.
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Wow, what a story. The kind of thing you'd expect from a 3rd world shithole country which I guess the USA is becoming.
Nazi USA is a shithole.
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[N]o matter how flawed the system, how cruel the circumstances, humanity will always shine through.
Even in the darkest places, within the most broken systems, humanity persists. Sometimes, it reveals itself in the smallest, most unexpected acts of kindness: a shared meal, a whispered prayer, a hand reaching out in the dark. We are defined by the love we extend, the courage we summon and the truths we are willing to tell.
idk this woman, but I'm so proud of her for using this media attention to do the right thing in a horrific situation.
The pictures of letters her cellmates gave her to get to their families, the moment where a wife sees her husband in the detention cells after being separated with no contact for weeks, the dehumanizing assembly line pregnancy tests.
It's a hard fucking read, but everyone should take 10-15 minutes and read the whole thing. This is basic knowledge of the system everyone in the world should be aware of, told by someone who has less to fear in reprisals than most of the folk who manage to escape.