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Woman attacked driver that hit, killed chicken that was crossing the road, per police

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    I have a Belgian Malinois, which, if you're not aware, is basicallythe breed of dog used by military and police that aren't German Shepherds. They are absolute maniacs of dogs, full of all kinds of prey drive and herding instincts and such that have long-since been bred out of your average family pet.

    So for a while when I still had a Facebook I followed a couple of Malinois pages to help me better understand what was going on in my dog's head.

    Now some malinois owners are great, they understand the reasons why their dogs are the way they are and understand how to manage them properly.

    Others are absolute assholes who just wanted the really cool supersoldier dog that can run up walls and eat bad guys, and don't really do anything to channel that energy properly

    I remember one post in particular of some guy's dog "playing" with a turtle, picking it up, throwing it around, etc.

    I'm a dog owner, I've at times dabbled in hunting, I'm an environmentalist and conservationist, I know what sort of laws are out there and what is and isn't allowed. And people are stupid and make entirely too much information about themselves available online.

    So I could see from this guy's profile what state (and in fact what city he was in, what high school he went to what company he works for, etc.)

    And I could easily Google what the laws in that state are

    And lol and behold, allowing your dog to harass wildlife is not allowed in that state. There were fines, potentially prison time, the officials could even take your dog and have them destroyed over this. I think it might have even been legal, maybe even encouraged, in that state for anyone witnessing this happening to just shoot your dog on the spot.

    I of course wasn't about to report this guy over this, I didn't want his dog put down or anything, I just wanted him to be a better, more responsible dog owner, so I pointed this out in the comments, that were, up until that point, mostly just other assholes jerking each other off over how cool malinois are.

    He, of course, quickly took the past down after that.

    But not before a whole bunch of people got really pissy about me looking at his profile (to see the information about himself that he made publicly available I guess?) and taking the time to Google the relevant laws in his state so that I could point out exactly why what he was doing wasn't just morally wrong but actually illegal.

    There were disturbingly few people commenting on that post who were simply angry that this jackass was letting his dog fuck with a turtle.

    As an aside, my dog is a rare "lazy" malinois. She's still more energetic and driven than pretty much any other dog I've ever met, there's a part of her that definitely wants to eat someone's face, but she's content to sleep on the couch all day instead. She definitely would chase some rabbits, deer, foxes, squirrels, etc. given the chance (I don't give her the chance,) and she's never seen a turtle, but she seems to like just sniffing and occasionally licking frogs and toads (I try not to let her, but she occasionally finds them before I do on our walks, the amphibians seem mildly annoyed by this, but not enough to hop away from her, and I make sure to get her away from them ASAP so that they can continue frogging undisturbed.)

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    Stalking people online is fucking creepy, no wonder people got "pissy".

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      Surely that's illegal. Driving on the opposite side of the road, into potentially oncoming traffic, at a pedestrian crossing with no visibility.

      I think the problem is Americans just seem to drive like idiots.

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      I've spent a bit of time in the US and your assessment is absolutely correct. I've never seen so many car accidents. The highways were lined on both sides with bits of car in varying sizes.

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        Luckily I've never had to turn a cat inside out, but they frequently dart out infront of vehicles close enough that slamming on the breaks won't do much even at low speed. I have a friend who's cat died on a stretch of road that had a 30 km/h speed limit.

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        One of the best reasons to keep cats indoors, but yeah I said "likely" because exceptions do exist.

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          It was almost at the other side, you bastard!

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            I was on her side until I read the article. She chased this person an unspecified distance in her car, blocked the chicken killer's car with her own, then attempted to open their car door, before settling on macing them.

            Fuck that impatient chicken killer but you don’t get to do a road rage for some vigilante justice. This was just two psychopaths being brought together by circumstance.

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            Nah, fuck that chicken killer
            FAFO

            JURY NULLIFICATION

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              Stalking people online is fucking creepy, no wonder people got "pissy".

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              i don't know if you can really call it stalking if they're willingly making information about themselves available for anyone to see. I didn't have to so much as punch his name into google, just click his name at the top of his post and it was all there for anyone to see.

              He didn't have to put his information out there and make it publicly available, but presumably he was ok with everyone on Facebook having access to that information about him.

              And if he wasn't ok with that, it made him realize his error so he could address it.

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                Is this it? Is this the answer?

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                  I'm getting strong Marta vibes from arrested development with this one

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                    Clearly didn't play Zelda

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      But... Why was the chicken crossing the road? 🤔

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                      Because he thought he was standing on the wrong side of the road

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                        The driver who killed the chicken is a shit stain and she will eventually kill someone. Imagine if that a child, elderly person or someone on a wheelchair.

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                          But... Why was the chicken crossing the road? 🤔

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                          To instigate a murder

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                            Deserved... It could be a child instead of chicken.

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                            The single most memorable part of Twin Peaks season 3 was this exact scenario but with a child, while the mother watched the whole thing, horrified.

                            edit: okay not exactly like that, the hit and run driver in the Twin Peaks episode didn't stop and honk, they were just in the wrong lane from the get-go. But still very similar situation

                            CW: a fictional portrayal of a child dying to a hit and run accident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V62BJFn-BTQ

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                              To instigate a murder

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                              Well it failed. The chicken's owner only maced the driver.

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                                There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy.

                                I think you're conflating hunting with torturing animals for entertainment...

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                                Not sure I see the difference

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                                  I'm not talking about being complicit. I'm talking about exposure.

                                  Just like you're not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that's good for your psyche.

                                  But if you don't like that, be vegetarian.

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                                  Most people cope like you are here but it's honestly weird to see someone who is seemingly so self aware but also encourages this ignorance.

                                  Remaining ignorant of these problems doesn't make them go away or make anyone any less complicit in perpetuating them.

                                  It's worth considering that it's possible to eat without harming animals and it's possible to have a cell phone without child slavery.

                                  Just like you're not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that's good for your psyche.

                                  Not knowing at all is one thing. Choosing to be willfully ignorant is another.

                                  But if you don't like that, be vegetarian.

                                  Yeah I agree.

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                                    Well it failed. The chicken's owner only maced the driver.

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                                    Alas, it gave everything and still did not achieve its goals

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                                      Not sure I see the difference

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                                      Lol, I'm sure you do.... you're just being purposely obtuse. Hunters do not hunt with intent to cause undue suffering to animals. With the animal harm associated with psychopathy the suffering is the express intent of the harm, not a byproduct of it.

                                      If hunting was actually correlated with psychopathy then we'd be in a bit of a pickle, considering that we evolved from hunting and gathering societies.

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                                        Lol, I'm sure you do.... you're just being purposely obtuse. Hunters do not hunt with intent to cause undue suffering to animals. With the animal harm associated with psychopathy the suffering is the express intent of the harm, not a byproduct of it.

                                        If hunting was actually correlated with psychopathy then we'd be in a bit of a pickle, considering that we evolved from hunting and gathering societies.

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                                        Hmm .. maybe you're right in that it's a matter of degrees. To me, there's a minimum amount of empathy that people should have, and below that I think they're crazy. So yes, psychopaths are probably more crazy than hunters. I can see that making sense.

                                        To me, it still takes a crazy mind to look at a breathing mammal and straight up murder it. More so the more intelligent it is.

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                                          Most people cope like you are here but it's honestly weird to see someone who is seemingly so self aware but also encourages this ignorance.

                                          Remaining ignorant of these problems doesn't make them go away or make anyone any less complicit in perpetuating them.

                                          It's worth considering that it's possible to eat without harming animals and it's possible to have a cell phone without child slavery.

                                          Just like you're not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that's good for your psyche.

                                          Not knowing at all is one thing. Choosing to be willfully ignorant is another.

                                          But if you don't like that, be vegetarian.

                                          Yeah I agree.

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                                          It's not so much that I'm encouraging ignorance. I'm discouraging direct exposure.

                                          You can know and be fully aware that animals are being killed. But to see it happen with your own eyes, or to participate, will fuck up a person.

                                          I guess I would encourage direct exposure if I thought more people would end up being vegetarian. But my gut tells me that more people would just end up crazy.

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