Got myself some energy monitoring Zigbee plugs and made an interesting discovery

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Sure!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQTFM1T6

Just plug it in, hold the button to put it into pairing mode, then launch your zigbee discovery method. No app, no wifi, no bluetooth. Just pure local control.

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I've got a decent handle on my electric bill. I already have it set to "equal pay", so I pay roughly the same amount every month - which includes my server cluster running 24/7.

I did some quick math, and my PC's estimated usage for a month is ~70 kW/h, which is ~$10 in my area. My last power bill was 1,145 kW/h total.

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It has never occured to me my whole life to not suspend or shut down computers overnight. It wakes up in like 2 seconds why wouldnt you, even if it used only an extra 1W

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70 kW is 16€ where I live and I have around 4000 kW per year.

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You’re totally right, not turning it on at all would be safer. But we do need to use them so it makes sense to turn it on while in use. Security is only good up to the point of it making your machine unusable. Most of the attacks you see on running computers by happens overnight anyway, or otherwise when your machine is sitting idle not in use. Plus it gives you the opportunity to witness odd behavior if it were to happen while you’re using it.

And no, you should never trust your LAN in the year of our lord 2025. We are well beyond that in the cybersecurity landscape and have been for 10+ years. Zero Trust is the name of the game. If a device is on, and connected to the internet, it’s a target, as are any other devices on that network.

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Those storage freezers are doing nothing the vast majority of the time. Not really a fair comparison.

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You must be pretty young, because back in the dark days of spinning HDDs a computer would take 5+ minutes to boot.

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TBH I didn't think it used a whole lot at idle, what with modern manufacturing processes and all. I was fairly surprised.

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Yeah, I noticed haha. Though I did have a big freezer some years ago that was a pretty hefty power suck... I never measured it, but it definitely affected my power bill.

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raise my 20-bay storage server.

I raise you my 72 bay monster... https://www.ebay.com/itm/126301431412

But I have 512 GB of ram in mine...

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There is a reason people opt for old desktop CPUs and SSD's

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I love my old desktops that pull almost nothing.

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Those were different times.

They are not relevant anymore with current self hosting setups.

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Part of why I'm going with the 'T' variant of the Pentium G4560 on my custom NAS build.

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Got myself some energy monitoring Zigbee plugs and made an interesting discovery