'Panic' in Ukraine as leaked confidential Trump peace plan astounds: report
-
I'm not sure you read what that person wrote correctly.
-
So openly declaring war on all of Europe?
-
As an American I'm not embarrassed. The whole world should have seen this coming. This country elected Trump in 2020. Americans showed you what type of time they're on. When he lost re-election Americans tried to force his presidency. The Democrats were too weak while they had power, always trying to take the high road. If any country is still dumb enough to really on the US for anything then they get what they get.
-
Does that seem out of the realm of possibility now?
-
Don't be embarrassed for the actions of poloticians. We only have the illusion of choice in the US. You can be embarrassed for the human race if you like. Cause "leaders" like this exist in the first place.
-
the word of the USA means less than nothing
now… -
Why would anybody expect a genocidal empire to stop another genocidal empire? They're the same thing.
Ukraine should have allied with palestinians and other people being attacked and colonized by empire.
-
Don't be embarrassed for the actions of poloticians. We only have the illusion of choice in the US. You can be embarrassed for the human race if you like. Cause "leaders" like this exist in the first place.
-
Politicians gain their power from The People. It is alarming as an American that nearly half the country actually wants this to happen because "the other side is getting hurt" without recognizing that they too will suffer alongside the people they are told to dislike.
What was that infamous quote from POTUS LBJ again? "Convince the poorest white that he's better than the richest black so you can pick his pockets clean [paraphrasing]"
-
"Whatever happened to the non-aligned movement?"
"He's over there."
-
Personally I'm disgusted to be in the same country as the people who approve of this. Makes me fucking sick.
-
Don't bother. People here would rather have Putin as god-emperor than face the reality of institutional failure that got them here. Twice.
-
And by "high road" you mean the one paved by donor money, not the morally high road.
-
The other option is to channel that hate into action. Even it’s just helping others get angry too. Once the right people (or the right amount of people) get angry enough, this can all be stopped.
-
So basically 1939 again, with Ukraine playing Poland, and you all know who the US are playing.
-
The "leaders" of the human race have a long history of shaping "the people"s lives so that they suseptible to being convinced by poloticians. It's like fighting against the addictive powers of social media. They hire the best to make it addictive. Many people just can't mentally compete.
That said, voter turnout was 64%, so only 32% ish voted for this. And a large part were probably dupped by the messaging. -
The other option is to channel that hate into action.
This. The Dalai Lama is very quotable on this subject. One of my favourites is:
To be angry on behalf of those who are treated unjustly means that we have compassionate anger. This type of anger leads to right action, and leads to social change.
To be angry toward the people in power does not create change. It creates more anger, more resentment, more fighting.
There's more here:
https://www.alwayswellwithin.com/blog/dalai-lama-quotes-compassionate-anger
-
I'm quite certain that this deal is intended to be unpalatable to Ukraine - it was cooked up by Trump and Putin after all.
Either way they win:
Ukraine takes the deal: they win; Ukraine says the deal is ridiculous and walks away: then Russia & Trump brand them as unrealistic agitants and delay for more favourable terms and extend the war.
-
Yes thats the one. I wasn't clear but you are right.
-
Playing the role of Nazi America.