'Panic' in Ukraine as leaked confidential Trump peace plan astounds: report
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"Whatever happened to the non-aligned movement?"
"He's over there."
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Personally I'm disgusted to be in the same country as the people who approve of this. Makes me fucking sick.
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Don't bother. People here would rather have Putin as god-emperor than face the reality of institutional failure that got them here. Twice.
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And by "high road" you mean the one paved by donor money, not the morally high road.
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The other option is to channel that hate into action. Even it’s just helping others get angry too. Once the right people (or the right amount of people) get angry enough, this can all be stopped.
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So basically 1939 again, with Ukraine playing Poland, and you all know who the US are playing.
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The "leaders" of the human race have a long history of shaping "the people"s lives so that they suseptible to being convinced by poloticians. It's like fighting against the addictive powers of social media. They hire the best to make it addictive. Many people just can't mentally compete.
That said, voter turnout was 64%, so only 32% ish voted for this. And a large part were probably dupped by the messaging. -
The other option is to channel that hate into action.
This. The Dalai Lama is very quotable on this subject. One of my favourites is:
To be angry on behalf of those who are treated unjustly means that we have compassionate anger. This type of anger leads to right action, and leads to social change.
To be angry toward the people in power does not create change. It creates more anger, more resentment, more fighting.
There's more here:
https://www.alwayswellwithin.com/blog/dalai-lama-quotes-compassionate-anger
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I'm quite certain that this deal is intended to be unpalatable to Ukraine - it was cooked up by Trump and Putin after all.
Either way they win:
Ukraine takes the deal: they win; Ukraine says the deal is ridiculous and walks away: then Russia & Trump brand them as unrealistic agitants and delay for more favourable terms and extend the war.
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Yes thats the one. I wasn't clear but you are right.
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Playing the role of Nazi America.
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Well, Europe needs to grow a pair and tell Trump to fuck off. We need to accept that he is leaving Nato, and European countries need to take it over or set up a new organisation. He can make any deal he likes with Russia; Europe and Ukraine can just tell him no and show him the true limits of his power. He cannot dictate to Europe and he is not our president.
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Strange way for the US to concede their defeat. (One more!) But to each their own.
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Trump did not get elected in 2020....he was elected 2016. Biden was elected 2020.
Have to correct because the craziest think he did win 2020.
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USSR betrayed Poland, and conquered them in a nutshell
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this deal is intended to be unpalatable to Ukraine
Oh, I get that. Still pretty stupid.
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Trump is scum, one of the biggest on earth same as his russian counterpart. Claiming the ceo of USA is a puppet of a country 10 times weaker is ignoring the scale and capabilities of US government military.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations_by_the_United_States
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This is definitely our punishment for elevating sociopathy to celebrity, rather than chasing it out into the dark woods with pointy sticks.
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Oh yeah, you are correct. I'll fix it.
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Thank you for specifying the State religion of evangelical "Supply Side Jesus" as its own evil cult, and not alienating the rest of us who stand with you.
There's a lot of Christians here, myself included, horrified by every second of this, watching people calling themselves "christians" give themselves over willingly to corruption and sheer evil at an alarming rate.
Of course we're silenced on many fronts: Most of the money for churches comes from powerful americultist organizations and donors, who are obviously in the angry orange baby Hitler's pocket, and they're seeding such hateful polarization that even leftists are turning on us and discounting us outright.
We're not as loud, well-funded, or numerous as the cult of hatred and warmongering and greed. But we know that the Jesus of the Gospel who commanded us to "Love thy neighbor as thyself" is not the Jesus of the State, and to throw one's lot in with these politicians is to deliberately side with the legions of Hell.
