DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[mitm0@lemmy.world]

Nope, At least we can check DeepSeek's source code

Unlike OpenAI..... oops I meant ClosedAI

[krasmazov@lemmygrad.ml]

E: any of you downvoters, feel free to correct me, I’d love to be wrong.

You throw a bunch of claims with zero source and wants to be taken seriously. At least give us the bare minimum before just spewing this much US State Department propaganda.

That being said, I will address some of your points, since someone else might stumble upon this and need an actual answer.

They don’t have CCP officials required by law to work at tech companies and disclose any and all data they acquire?

Keeping a close look on the companies on their country and keeping them on a short leash is good actually. China is not a capitalist hellhole like the US or most of the world, it is a socialist state where the rich does not control the government. Keeping them in check is the right thing to do given their current development level of socialism.

They’re not using Uyghur slaves in their factories?

That's a new one, so far I have only heard about how they are being genocided. Which you can debunk with a little bit of research: Arab League’s visit to Xinjiang rejects Western accusations of ethnic genocide, religious persecution.

They’re not trying to literally erase Taiwan off the maps?

LMAO, no. Taiwan is part of China, why would China want to erase part of itself off the map? Even the US agrees. The only thing China wants is proper reunification with Taiwan.

They’re not still censoring information about their horrific pasts?

What "horrific past"? Be specific, this vague stance achieves nothing. If you're talking about Tiananmen Square, here's a good video about that: The Tiananmen Square "Massacre" Never Happened.

They’re not targeting, retaliating against and kidnapping protestors domestic and abroad?

Again, provide a damn source, I have no idea of what you're talking about and it is something I never saw anyone claim before.

What I can do tho is bring into attention the names of a few people like Huey P. Newton being killed by the US government and Snowden having to seek asylum abroad after blowing the whistle on the US surveillance state for the world to see. And if that's not enough, how about Pro-Palestinian protesters clash with US police on second night of DNC and New Report Details How Pro-Palestinian Protests Are Suppressed in Democratic Countries.

They’re not censoring virtually every US social website entirely from the entire country?

No they are not, Microsoft operates in China. Not only that, but they do not explicitly want to simply ban US sites on there, it's a simple matter of national sovereignty where companies like Facebook and Google refuse to abide by Chinese law, so China simply developed all their tools in-house. Not only that, but Chinese citizens have access to VPNs and can easily access websites abroad that are not usually allowed in China.

Meanwhile the US banned Huawei and tried to ban TikTok when it became apparent they could not control it and that the people were seeing the US for what it truly is, a genocidal state funding Israel in it's attempt to genocide the Palestinian people.

The last link I posted is a proxy on 12ft.io since The Intercept won't allow to see the page without registering.

[boomkop3@reddthat.com]

Fair, but I don't know what exactly I'd be hiding here

[midwestkhagan@lemmygrad.ml]

And? This anti China propaganda is falling apart.

[mojeek@lemmy.ml]

haha, now do openai

[bytejunk@lemmy.world]

It seems like a smear piece because it makes it sound like DeepSeek is doing something that the others aren't, while the truth is that ever single on of them collects your data.

At best, it's disingenuous. At worst, with the ability to run locally, it's a blatant lie.

[tht@social.pwned.page]

I run it locally on a 4080, how do they capture my keystrokes?

[tht@social.pwned.page]

Better for my data to be in China than in the US

[fallowseed@lemmy.world]

yeah def not our own country going after privacy...

[uberstar@lemmy.ml]

off-topic here as well, why stop at privacy policies? EULAs can get wilder, best such example of which is Apple:

[spechter@lemmy.ml]

And you're making it easy for them if you don't give a fuck.

[ascend910@lemmy.ml]

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

[markinov@lemmygrad.ml]

[senal@programming.dev]

Also fair.

[superkret@feddit.org]

Not when it's about LLMs.

[superkret@feddit.org]

The same thing happened in ChatGPT when I asked something borderline NSFW.

[superkret@feddit.org]

The way this is worded, technically you're not allowed to use a Mac for designing a 3D printed nerf dart.

[superkret@feddit.org]

Beware! Anything you type into a Google search is sent to Google's servers!

[mspencer712@programming.dev]

This makes me sad, that we can’t engage in civil discussion about this. Why did you assume and not ask questions? Be curious, not judgmental.

To me it’s a question of laws. The laws of the U.S. at least somewhat constrain the people of my own country, and can prevent them from working against their own citizens. Like me.

Please be kind when replying.

[cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de]

I'm safer knowing that my data is safe at home.