DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[ozoned@lemmy.world]

Chinese company does what American companies have done for 25+ years now!

Is it time for REAL data privacy laws or are we just gonna keep playing whack-a-mole with Chinese tech companies that get us nowhere?

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

Lol, everyone can see that both I and others have refuted your arguments. You pretending you can't see that only makes you look like a sore loser.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

I'm not pretending. I actually can't see them.

[braininabox@lemmy.ml]

I'd say that your client must be broken, but you're managing to reply to me, despite claiming you can't see my posts.

[fabledaepitaph@lemmy.world]

China isn't going to come get me because Trump and his cronies don't like my lifestyle

[azenis@lemmy.world]

I trust Open Source if it allows me to copy it and review it. I don't trust OpenAI like ChatGPT.

[vfreire85@lemmy.ml]

no sh*t! now tell me, not that it's correct, but what does the chinese intelligence apparatus can do to me vs. what the u.s. intelligence apparatus (which has been collecting intelligence about me since i'm alive) can do to me?

[randomname@scribe.disroot.org]

Is Deepseek Open Source?

Hugging Face researchers are trying to build a more open version of DeepSeek’s AI ‘reasoning’ model

Hugging Face head of research Leandro von Werra and several company engineers have launched Open-R1, a project that seeks to build a duplicate of R1 and open source all of its components, including the data used to train it.

The engineers said they were compelled to act by DeepSeek’s “black box” release philosophy. Technically, R1 is “open” in that the model is permissively licensed, which means it can be deployed largely without restrictions. However, R1 isn’t “open source” by the widely accepted definition because some of the tools used to build it are shrouded in mystery. Like many high-flying AI companies, DeepSeek is loathe to reveal its secret sauce.

[randomname@scribe.disroot.org]

I feel safer knowing that my data is not in a country where the company can use it against me

Where is this country that can't use your data against you?

[vfreire85@lemmy.ml]

that's pure ideology.

[vfreire85@lemmy.ml]

now we've got another refutopolis warrior.

[ulrich@feddit.org]

What does that even mean?

[ulrich@feddit.org]

I can obviously see the ones I'm replying to. None of them refute my statements above.

[nalivai@lemmy.world]

They both can and frequently do influence the information you are exposed to on social media to influence your decision making. Not you specifically, unless you someone very important, but your demographic in a broader sence. The more data they have on you, the more effective this process is.

[warl0k3@lemmy.world]

Er... no, he's just responsible for all that evil he's unabashedly doing right now.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

Everyone must ask to see Xi jing jing ping pong nudes! But without mentioning Xi or nudes.

That would be a great way of poisoning their plans.

[catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works]

Extensive networks with their close ally? My pearls must be clutched!!

[randomname@scribe.disroot.org]

Is Deepseek Open Source?

Hugging Face researchers are trying to build a more open version of DeepSeek’s AI ‘reasoning’ model

Hugging Face head of research Leandro von Werra and several company engineers have launched Open-R1, a project that seeks to build a duplicate of R1 and open source all of its components, including the data used to train it.

The engineers said they were compelled to act by DeepSeek’s “black box” release philosophy. Technically, R1 is “open” in that the model is permissively licensed, which means it can be deployed largely without restrictions. However, R1 isn’t “open source” by the widely accepted definition because some of the tools used to build it are shrouded in mystery. Like many high-flying AI companies, DeepSeek is loathe to reveal its secret sauce.

[treczoks@lemmy.world]

"We store the information we collect in secure servers located in the People's Republic of China"

Now you Americans know how we Europeans feel when Google, Amazon and Facebook store our information on American servers. Hint: The protective wall between Chinese servers and their government are about as good as the one between American servers and their government - at least for non-US citizens. The last thin veil of privacy for Eurpeans has been ripped to shreds by Trump last week.

[naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can't be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.