DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers
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Oh yeah, the whole article could be reductively summed up as
"DeepSeek and all the other LLM services are almost as bad as each other, but we think deepseek is worse....because the Chinese government are known for doing bad things".
The title is factual, if a little clickbaity.
Obviously keystrokes you submit to a website are submitted to the website.
This though, it's not technically accurate, a lot of forms and input are done client side and then the resulting information is parceled up and sent to the server.
The actual keystroke data isn't normally sent.
Though this article doesn't go in to what kind of keystroke data is sent, if it was something more than just which keys in which order then that's perhaps an indicator that it's actively being collected for a reason, rather than just incidentally.
If you want to get really paranoid about such things it's known that you can you can do interesting things with actual keystroke data.
Also, afaict none of the the non-chinese services have specified that they don't do this.
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Isn't it open source? If so it should be near trivial to get rid of all of that.
If it's closed source I wouldn't touch it with a tej foot pole, it's the same reason I rarely use chat gpt, it's just freely giving away your personal data to open AI.
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HuggingChat is open source and lets you use DeepSeek.
Very misleading, it lets you use the lighter, watered-down version (Deepseek 32B) compared to the large impressive model they have (Deepseek 671B)
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Lmaooooo great find. I wonder why exactly they had to clarify that? Maybe a semi Easter egg? Or a genuine concern? Thanks for sharing.
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Yes, and all evil is secretly him. Just like you say, secretly he's working with everyone bad in the USA, and he's secretly a very important figure in US politics. Just like he's secretly behind me stubbing my toe.
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So you were lying when you said you couldn't see them, because you've replied to ones that actively refute you statements.
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I shouldn’t have anything to hide, but I’m part of a group the current fascist leadership in government want’s to eradicate, so hide I shall.
I agree and i think a lot of people who espouse "nothing to hide" as an approach haven't actually thought it all the way through.
Then there's the fascists, dictators, oligarchs and other all around shitbags who just want the control.
That said, I also feel like people acting like the remote server they are connected to is tracking what you do on it as some kind of surprise is so stupid. “Facebook is keeping track of the pictures I uploaded to it!!!” There’s a lot of stuff to complain about Facebook, google, or whoever, but them tracking stuff you send to them willingly isn’t one of them.
This always surprises me, i originally thought it was because people didn't understand how these things work or how capitalist companies work.
More and more it seems like people don't care until it affects them, which is somewhat understandable, it takes effort to care about this stuff and a lot of people will never be directly affected by the consequences.
What i do still think is that the general population has no idea the extent of what can be done with all of the information they are volunteering.
That's very slowly changing but the usages of the data are also increasing at a much more rapid pace than before.
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The funny thing is that I would realistically only care about, for example, the Russian government collecting my data if their oligarchy collaborated with my government's oligarchy against my and the population's interest (which I guess in this case is significantly more likely than China)
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Excellent Point. If that's the case though, then wouldn't other countries follow suit which still limits big tech's reach and makes them less profitable and less powerful? Idk. Guess we'll see how it plays out. Either way, I'm staying as far from those ecosystems as possible to at least try to mitigate some of what they do. I'll never be totally successful, genie is put of the bottle, but we can at least attempt.
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They both can and frequently do influence the information you are exposed to on social media to influence your decision making.
You know what they say about assertions made without evidence.
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No, I haven't.
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Are you running a quantized model or one of the distilled ones?
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This is why you run stuff locally or not at all.
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Chinese company uses servers located in China. More news at 11.
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Lol, everyone can see that both I and others have refuted your arguments. You pretending you can’t see that only makes you look like a sore loser.
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Oh yeah and ChatGPT doesn’t
