DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[tangentism@lemmy.ml]

Western authorities have been harvesting data for a few decades from social media so any complaint that singles out Chinese apps doing the same is obviously rooted in sinophobia.

The fact you think it's pathetic shows which side of that assertion you fall.

[dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You can't just host the 632B model that the app uses lol

[jhex@lemmy.world]

as opposed to OpenAI which also stores keystrokes and then sells them to anyone who'd pay?

[grey_maniac@lemmy.ca]

I literally so paranoid I regularly vary my keysteoke rhythms and explore polyrhytmic techniques to create variations. Not even joking.

[underpantsweevil@lemmy.world]

This is Whataboutism and you are clearly a Wumao agent sent here to destroy democracy.

[lotrorc@lemmy.world]

Like every app you have doesn't collect keystrokes data?

[underpantsweevil@lemmy.world]

Building my entire data model around the Tienanmen Square copypasta. I can run this thing on a Raspberry Pi plugged into a particularly starchy potato and it reliably returns the only answer I've thought to ask it.

[petter1@lemm.ee]

We are now at a time where US blocks China tech in order to protect its companies

Just like many US services banned in China in Order to protect their companies

So, I hope no surprise..

[zeca@lemmy.eco.br]

every google site has been doing this for years too. every comment we write in youtube and discard before posting, its being recorded. this isnt news at all.

[leftytighty@slrpnk.net]

right?

CHINESE APP COLLECTS YOUR THOUGHTS AND SAVES THEM

[bitjunkie@lemmy.world]

We were doing a perfectly adequate job of that on our own

[anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net]

When I read DeepSeek's privacy policy, I was creeped out by the invasiveness of the keystrokes thing. Then I realised that ChatGPT is just as creepy, but less upfront about it, and DeepSeek's relative transparencyn caused me to see them in a more favourable light

[h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

If you have the hardware, then yes, you can.

[p4ulin_kbana@lemmy.eco.br]

Unrelated but yesterday I saw a post where the person was mocking those concerned by the chinese getting their data, saying things like "why would they care" and some people sarcastically saying they wouldn't understand the data because "it was in another language". Were those people right or not?

[jhex@lemmy.world]

I don't need to... Muricans took care of destroying democracy all on their own

[dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Ah, just acquire such hardware, very simple and anyone can do it without supply chain knowledge or advantage

[cocosulmov@lemmy.world]

i don't know but there are some Chinese apps that translates instantly like everything in every language

[treczoks@lemmy.world]

He killed the EU-US Data Privacy Framework. Theoretically, no company is allowed to transfer data of European citizens to US-based servers anymore. Sadly, Ursula von der Leyen is lacking the balls to act on this.

[webghost0101@sopuli.xyz]

Its not cheap, but basically a single toptier gaming desktop with an additional graphics card (or 2) is literally all you need.

I know multiple people who work normal IT jobs that have already started on setting up their own.

Here is someone who got it to work on a cluster of mac-minis. Again not cheap, but clearly within dedicated consumer enthusiast reach.
https://digialps.com/deepseek-v3-on-m4-mac-blazing-fast-inference-on-apple-silicon/

And this is before even considering how fast open source moves, i am expecting quantized models which can have double speed for negligible quality impact any second now.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

Thanks, I did not know. I think you are referring to this: https://www.freevacy.com/news/noyb/trumps-actions-to-dismantle-pclob-threatens-eu-us-data-transfers/6088

To be completely honest... as an European I would be happy if they actually did make it so that no EU-US data transfer were possible... we need to stop depending on all these US services... but like you said, they probably don't have the balls to pull the plug. Which makes me wonder if that board was actually really any protection at all or it had always been an empty shell just to keep the deal.