DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

[davel@lemmy.ml]

And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted.

You didn’t provide links; you provided one link, to Hasan’s hatchet job, which doesn’t even interview any supposed victims.

[davel@lemmy.ml]

They literally posted a video with actual victims confronting the government.

What are the time stamps of actual victims speaking? Because if they’re there, I must have missed them.

[qaz@lemmy.world]

You can run the smaller models on your desktop though

[davel@lemmy.ml]

Oh I see, the only people still here are you, me, and two of your alt accounts Admins can see votes, BTW.

[grapho@lemmy.ml]

Man that's sad lmao

[grapho@lemmy.ml]

You can't disprove what I said, because I deliberately refuse to make a coherent claim!

Check and mate tankies

[jaxxed@lemmy.ml]

Yes, that is how these generative AI imementations work.

[eldritch@lemmy.world]

Why would I throw more Pearls Before swine with a clown shoes bad faith response like that? Your participating in a fallacy again. Attacking the messenger. Not what was said. And funny his reporting was good enough for everyone when he was calling out the United States. Just suddenly he loses all credibility when it's your team. Odd how that works lol.

And quite literally in the video they address what you say. The lack of victims crying out doesn't mean there's no victims. China won't let them make a statement or talk to the public. That's literally the problem. And you know it.

But I'm going to handle you the same way I handle bad faith economic liberals. Bye Felecia!

[grapho@lemmy.ml]

Whose job would it be, corporations? Do you think the public was well served by anti-masker, anti-vax conspiracies being allowed to run rampant? Has the US benefitted from QAnon and Pizzagate being completely unopposed and sometimes boosted by social media?

[grapho@lemmy.ml]

Lmao you won't provide actual proof because we ask for proof before believing you outright?

If you have time to write anime villain speeches you have time to do some actual reading, get over yourself

[davel@lemmy.ml]

I don’t know why you put so much effort into your bullshit when no one reads deeply buried comments in a two day old post

[davel@lemmy.ml]

I don’t think they’ll be getting any more upvotes, unless they want to show me more of their alt accounts.

[ju135@lemmings.world]

This make the news only because it's going to chinese servers. Didn't see anything like that about ChatGPT or the one made by Google.

[humanperson@sh.itjust.works]

I feel like their is more common. I do deliberately say its for companies because companies aren't people and don't deserve people pronouns. Countries seem more like a collection of people, so I use their.

If someone knows more about grammar feel free to correct me.

[theeighthdoctor@lemmy.zip]

How about no censorship? And you get to use your brain to decide. I like to live in a country where the government doesn't preselect which topics I have access to but to each his own, you can go live in the CCP or North Korea then.

[fijxu@programming.dev]

No, this is just propaganda

[tux@lemmy.world]

Keystrokes don’t have to be in a text field or input. That’s my point.

If I’m on say google. And I type anything into the field it’s definitely capturing it. You know this for no other reason then it would have to be with autocomplete as an option.

Keystroke capturing is the same as keylogging, aka anything typed even if it’s not into a place where you would assume it’s being seen by the app. Aka, if I had an app open in the background and was typing in my password, it would see and capture that.

They’re completely different things. While the privacy issues of US large tech companies are abundant and awful, there is a large difference between keystroke capturing and capturing input via fields. Especially when you’re agreeing to allow them to process and transfer or even sell that information.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

But that's not what the terms on both Google/Meta and Deepseek say.

Google/Meta has no obligation to restrict the data collection to forms, if the ToS allow them to collect them rom forms, then there's no reason it also does not allow them to collect them outside of forms. In the same way, Deepseek terms don't say the logging happens outside of logs. For all we know the only place they might be capturing it is exclusively in very specific forms, or they might even only added that to the terms so that they can add suggestions in the future. You can only make assumptions, since the terms are not specific on exactly what's being captured and in which way, it only says keystrokes in the case of Deepseek and even more generic (and thus allowing more possible vectors) in Google/Meta's terms.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

This is the full paragraph:

We collect certain device and network connection information when you access the Service. This information includes your device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language. We also collect service-related, diagnostic, and performance information, including crash reports and performance logs. We automatically assign you a device ID and user ID. Where you log-in from multiple devices, we use information such as your device ID and user ID to identify your activity across devices to give you a seamless log-in experience and for security purposes.

It looks to me that they are trying to identify the user uniquely.. maybe also related to captcha to prevent bots (it's common practice to capture mouse and keyboard while resolving captchas to see if the movement is human-like).

[kekmacska@lemmy.zip]

it is open-source, if they did something like this, we would know it for sure