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YouTuber faces jail time for showing off Android-based gaming handhelds - Ars Technica

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    YouTuber faces jail time for showing off Android-based gaming handhelds promoting pirated copyrighted materials

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      Wouldn't this be a civil case, not a criminal one?

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        Wouldn't this be a civil case, not a criminal one?

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        Italian law allows for up to three years in jail for "promotion of pirated copyrighted materials." Italy generally has some fucked up laws, like ISPs required to block DNS addresses by request of Copyright holders for blocking of illegal live sports in very short time frames, and those blocks are not even required to be listed somewhere, which has already caused some issues like when they blocked a cloudflare ip, causing completely innocent sites and services suddenly being blocked in the whole country. Recently they demanded that google Poison their DNS servers using that same law.

        Italy is the MPAA's wet dream manifest

        E: i forgot that they also managed to block the entire google drive domain in italy because there were some downloads there lol

        E2: i was not completely up to date: In January, the Court of Milan found that Cloudflare's CDN, DNS server, and WARP VPN were facilitating piracy. The court threatened Cloudflare with fines of up to 10,000 euros per day if it did not begin blocking the sites.

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          Possibly some of them are legal/open source and others are not?

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          Those are entirely legal while the article implies there is some legal gray area involved.

          I know it’s cool to dunk on Nintendo and sometimes it’s an actual moral obligation but I prefer not to lose sight of facts. There’s lots of bad PR against Nintendo lately, mostly based on unverified claims of anonymous people. It gets tiring that journalists mediaworkers care only about clicks.

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            Well, I agree that if nobody owns the IP then there is literally no harm no foul.

            Again, not that I'm here advocating for the rights of the poor IP holders, but it would be important to determine if there is an owner to property to call it abandonware.

            Unfortunately, Nintendo diligently patrols their interest in this matter. I believe they hold titles until they determine they can generate revenue. Part of it is trying not to saturate the market so they can continue making money off new games. Some of it is possibly due to the willingness and availability of partners.

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            Yeah, there's no question that when it comes to Nintendo there is none of their IP that is now abandonware

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              Those are entirely legal while the article implies there is some legal gray area involved.

              I know it’s cool to dunk on Nintendo and sometimes it’s an actual moral obligation but I prefer not to lose sight of facts. There’s lots of bad PR against Nintendo lately, mostly based on unverified claims of anonymous people. It gets tiring that journalists mediaworkers care only about clicks.

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              Yes, I'm saying some games are entirely legal while others may entirely illegal, leaving the game collection as a whole "not entirely legal".

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                I think a lot of abandonware is legal? Devices like this usually support few dozens old consoles, which you can't even buy, and you can't buy games for them. Stuff like commodore64, old nintendo, etc. And you upload stuff there via USB usually. So the problem I guess is to see where the line draws, because some of those ancient games are legal to pirate now while others are still illegal because their right holder is still in business even though they effectively are abandoned and impossible to buy.

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                We're talking about devices like the R36S, which come with an SD-Card with the full NES, SNES and MegaDrive library and several hundreds of MAME games, N64, PS1, PSP and so on. Those things are really incredible - they cost almost nothing (like 35€) and give you a really crazy value for your money. Buy them before authorities catch up, but yeah, there is nothing legal about them and many games that come with them are not abandoned.

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                  Wow fk italiy

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                    Italian law allows for up to three years in jail for "promotion of pirated copyrighted materials." Italy generally has some fucked up laws, like ISPs required to block DNS addresses by request of Copyright holders for blocking of illegal live sports in very short time frames, and those blocks are not even required to be listed somewhere, which has already caused some issues like when they blocked a cloudflare ip, causing completely innocent sites and services suddenly being blocked in the whole country. Recently they demanded that google Poison their DNS servers using that same law.

                    Italy is the MPAA's wet dream manifest

                    E: i forgot that they also managed to block the entire google drive domain in italy because there were some downloads there lol

                    E2: i was not completely up to date: In January, the Court of Milan found that Cloudflare's CDN, DNS server, and WARP VPN were facilitating piracy. The court threatened Cloudflare with fines of up to 10,000 euros per day if it did not begin blocking the sites.

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                    They may as well block the entire internet since there's pirated content everywhere.
                    They should especially focus on blocking AI sites, those are IP theft machines.

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                      They may as well block the entire internet since there's pirated content everywhere.
                      They should especially focus on blocking AI sites, those are IP theft machines.

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                      i'll paste my vision for datasets and LLM here, not that i would live to see this:

                      Since GenAI-models and the datasets they are trained on resemble an interactive snapshot of human culture, I believe that the datasets should belong to an UN organization like UNESCO, corporations/NGOs/people should be able to license them to build their models (ev. with "community models" provided free for personal use), and the licence fees should be used to subsidize culture. This plus an UBI would make sure that artists don't have to starve, corporations can use them to try to make a profit, and everyone else can use them to create for their own or their communities use. Artists that don't want to go into the datasets have that right too, but also won't have access to that financial pool (this shouldn't be the only pool).

                      IP law in its current form is only a weapon for corporations to punish people, like when the RIAA sued small fish into bankruptcy for downloading a few shitty pop songs; they are also often used to dismantle privacy or push more surveillance, and i can't defend those laws as they stand. Fuck copyrights.

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