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Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez, 250 guests arriving on 90 different private jets at the wedding in Venice.

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  • T [email protected]

    You don't need to buy the first ever model produced, do you? You can buy a 10 year old car, which if driven 10k a year still has half the life of its battery available. Chances are it wasn't used for road trips so it will have been driven less than 10k a year, leaving maybe 75% of its useful life. Even the first ones ever produced could have 5 or 10 years in them, depending on usage and mileage. Used EVs ARE NOT close to EoL in most cases.

    Plus you can get it inspected, get a battery certificate or even a second hand warranty of you are soooo worried. Or, as I said before, you buy the car and rent the battery. Doesn't make economic sense, but falling to propaganda never does. There are easy solutions besides ranting on the internet.

    Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don't think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.

    fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #139

    Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don't think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.

    While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.

    Yes. Totally the talking points of Big Oil.

    Totally.

    You’re full of shit.

    A quick search, and average EU driving is about 10k km/year.

    Being generous here and not using the more-than-double American numbers, you can expect a typical decade-old ev to have lost about 20% of its range, and having had about 200km max range when it was out, for about 160km.

    Fine for daily commute, sure. Not fine if the owner ever wants to visit another city, for oh so many reasons. Not like us poors have a life. Nope all we ever do is commute, work, and go home. That’s all life is….

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    • fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

      Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don't think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.

      While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.

      Yes. Totally the talking points of Big Oil.

      Totally.

      You’re full of shit.

      A quick search, and average EU driving is about 10k km/year.

      Being generous here and not using the more-than-double American numbers, you can expect a typical decade-old ev to have lost about 20% of its range, and having had about 200km max range when it was out, for about 160km.

      Fine for daily commute, sure. Not fine if the owner ever wants to visit another city, for oh so many reasons. Not like us poors have a life. Nope all we ever do is commute, work, and go home. That’s all life is….

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      #140

      That's why I mentioned hanlons razor, parroting oil companies without stopping to think.

      EV not fine for another city? A 20 minute charging stop is worth thousands more in purchase costs, thousands more in maintenence costs and hours in downtime related?

      Want to visit another city? Stop to charge. Take the train. Fly. Walk if you want. Buying a used EV does not prevent you from doing any of those things.

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      • T [email protected]

        Well, it's what I paid for mine in 2019, so you are free to belive what you want. Discounts between 10% and 40% are expected:
        ::: spoiler spoiler
        https://www.mobile.de/magazin/artikel/jahreswagen-was-ist-das-und-lohnt-es-sich-54458
        :::

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        #141

        Pre-covid and post-covid are completely different markets. Also, this situation is different in countries where you have to have a car to get anywhere like in most of Canada and the US.

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        • lootboblin@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

          90 private jets polluting the planet just to see one rich asshole say ”I do”.

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          I bet there's an open bar aswell.

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          • B [email protected]

            Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

            "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

            Translation:

            "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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            #143

            Good luck, 47.

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            • obinice@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

              Good luck, 47.

              artvandelay@lemmy.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #144

              If only.

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              • B [email protected]

                Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                Translation:

                "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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                • B [email protected]

                  Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                  "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                  Translation:

                  "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                  #146

                  All the Sociopathic Oligarchs in the same place at once? Look, I'd normally be against this sort of thing, but if someone wants to drop a nuke on Venice, I could excuse it just this once.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                    "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                    Translation:

                    "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                    #147

                    Won't someone rid me of these pesky Sociopathic Oligarchs?

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                    • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                      If you compute it per person I suspect a billionaire is probably producing (just due to flights) about 10000 to 50000 more than an average traveller (couple international flights a year).

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                      To be honest the planet does not care how you compute it.

                      Quick google-fu said private jets are about 1,8% of the total airtravel pollution. If you want whats good for the earth, focus on the half empty and empty commercial flights that big airlines do because they want to keep their hangar places. That makes much bigger part of the overall pollution.

                      I say: let the rich fly, just make it so they pay enough taxes for it compencate for it.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                        "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                        Translation:

                        "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

                        blackmist@feddit.ukB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Well that sounds efficient.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                          If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

                          machinist@lemmy.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          I'll go with you.

                          I'm still going to want to have a hard talk with God about why She allows cancer babies and such...

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                            "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                            Translation:

                            "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                            I give them a year.

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Italy is also home of the people who responded to that regime by dragging Mussolini and his wife's bodies after their assassination across the country back to Milan, where they were unceremoniously dumped in a town square to be humiliated and desecrated, then hung on girders above a service station in the square by their ankles until they fell and subsequently were buried in unmarked graves.

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                              Inspiring.
                              If only alk fascists died that way...

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                              • T [email protected]

                                BTW, you don't need a subscription for the Zoe. You can either buy the battery or rent it, but there's no subscription.

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                                rent it, but there's no subscription.

                                I'm confused by your semantics.

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  Wait he has an ev truck now too?? Is this part of the douchebag checklist? Space company, ev truck, …

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                                  He funds slate.
                                  The thing seems designed to be repairable.

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                                    rent it, but there's no subscription.

                                    I'm confused by your semantics.

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                                    Subscription: pay for functionality or services. Like Netflix, Amazon Ring, Adobe Suite, Tesla Enhanced Autopilot, BMW heated seats, etc

                                    Rent: use a physical object without buying it, paying per month: an apartment, an office, a car on vacation, the battery for your car if you are afraid of the FUD.

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                                      If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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                                      It will be sad for all the art and historical artifacts. But (the) god(s) can make the funniest entertainment for them and the world

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                                        "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                                        Translation:

                                        "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                                        He will cheat on her while she does the pool boy. It's the new/old thing for the rich.

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          This is where God gets to prove he's real, and he's on the side of the people. If it's true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.

                                          If that happens, I'll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That's what it will take.

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                                          If the richs die from the hand of heaven I'll be the first preacher

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