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Genshin Impact Will Soon Require Age Verification in the United States

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    So basically your argument is, if you don't like the gameplay loop, they force you to pay? I'm not arguing that there are idiots out there who will spend their life savings on digital crop, but you are dramatically OVERselling the difficulty of upgrade requirements. Sure if you wanna play 8 hours a day you're eventually gonna have to spend money, but. If you play for an hour or so each day, hit the events that are worth the time, do some daily/weekly dungeons as they are available, a little exploration and a little questing, and have any sense of "progress takes time", the actual gameplay is fun enough to carry without spending money. If it isn't, for you or someone else, then just don't play?

    Also, oversexualization of minors is a term that gets thrown around a LOT with this game and I just don't see it, basically ever. The few characters that are actual children are dressed conservatively, act like children, are treated like children by other characters, there's never inappropriate commentary about them... if you wanna offense to the anime-style art that makes everyone, including adults, cartoonist, that's your opinion. It's weird that a lot of people act like it's a pervasive issue when it really doesn't exist at all in the game.

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    So basically your argument is, if you don’t like the gameplay loop, they force you to pay?

    Lol no, I'm saying if you do like the gameplay loop, you will eventually get trapped in it. The more you play, the more time-gated walls you hit in the daily grind, and the more time-gated ceilings you hit in the weekly/monthly grinds, all while the game is designed to hook right into your dopamine reward system and never let go. Want to play more? Better cough up some money! Finished your dailies? But today's the last day, time is running out on the banner! Cough up some money!

    Oh, lol, you don't see it? The fact that there is an entire model type called "short female" with eight (edit: ten!) characters... but no short males? "Modestly dressed" lmao they're like 60% exposed skin, short shorts and skirts.

    And oh, right, there are some "modestly" dressed children that look like children, and act like children... but coincidentally several of those short female models who aren't modestly dressed fall under that "I look exactly like the children but I'm not! I'm actually an adult! Or even an immortal" lolicon trope.

    It's. Fucking. Gross.

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      So basically your argument is, if you don’t like the gameplay loop, they force you to pay?

      Lol no, I'm saying if you do like the gameplay loop, you will eventually get trapped in it. The more you play, the more time-gated walls you hit in the daily grind, and the more time-gated ceilings you hit in the weekly/monthly grinds, all while the game is designed to hook right into your dopamine reward system and never let go. Want to play more? Better cough up some money! Finished your dailies? But today's the last day, time is running out on the banner! Cough up some money!

      Oh, lol, you don't see it? The fact that there is an entire model type called "short female" with eight (edit: ten!) characters... but no short males? "Modestly dressed" lmao they're like 60% exposed skin, short shorts and skirts.

      And oh, right, there are some "modestly" dressed children that look like children, and act like children... but coincidentally several of those short female models who aren't modestly dressed fall under that "I look exactly like the children but I'm not! I'm actually an adult! Or even an immortal" lolicon trope.

      It's. Fucking. Gross.

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      https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Short_Female_Characters I clicked on 4 among the grand total of 10 characters of this type and don't see what you mean. Do you mean that the miniskirts are supposed to be sexy or something? ...I don't really see it. Maybe it's a cultural thing where as an Asian I don't find that sexy?

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        Force government ID and I'm out. Max I'm giving you is DOB.

        ... And I don't even play anymore

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          https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Short_Female_Characters I clicked on 4 among the grand total of 10 characters of this type and don't see what you mean. Do you mean that the miniskirts are supposed to be sexy or something? ...I don't really see it. Maybe it's a cultural thing where as an Asian I don't find that sexy?

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          Do you mean that the miniskirts are supposed to be sexy or something?

          Klee and Nahida's skirts effectively don't even exist - they end at the hip, with exposed undergarments.

          It's a good thing you don't see that as sexy on those character models, but imagine those same outfits on conventionally attractive real-world adults. If you're suggesting that miniskirts and exposed midriffs are considered "modestly dressed" then what, exactly, would be immodest to you?

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            I don't understand. For spending money one requires banking/card information. How children will get their guardian's banking details without their consent?

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              I don't understand. For spending money one requires banking/card information. How children will get their guardian's banking details without their consent?

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              Have you paid for things on mobile in-app? The operating system stores your info behind a password (or biometric) because adults (non-gambling as well) also hate having to memorize 16 digits flawlessly every time they needed to make payments.

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                Blame the US for declaring that US minors are too stupid and US parents too neglectful to pay attention to what is purchased online.

                They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.

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                They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.

                Good. Gambling is illegal for minors under the age of 18.

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                  They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.

                  Good. Gambling is illegal for minors under the age of 18.

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                  Most of the game isn't gambling, to pretend otherwise is just silly. It's like being one of those idiots that pretend counterstrike is gambling.

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                    Most of the game isn't gambling, to pretend otherwise is just silly. It's like being one of those idiots that pretend counterstrike is gambling.

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                    If there's an otherwise g rated movie with ten minutes of full frontal nudity and hard-core sex what rating do you think that movie is gonna get?

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                      Have you paid for things on mobile in-app? The operating system stores your info behind a password (or biometric) because adults (non-gambling as well) also hate having to memorize 16 digits flawlessly every time they needed to make payments.

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                      Why would parents' payment info be stored in child's device or user account?

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                        If there's an otherwise g rated movie with ten minutes of full frontal nudity and hard-core sex what rating do you think that movie is gonna get?

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                        If you think cosmetic lootboxes are comparable to porn, you're too stupid for internet access and your handler should limit your screen time in the future until a cure is found for whatever thing is currently affecting you.

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                          Why would parents' payment info be stored in child's device or user account?

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                          Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

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                            Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

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                            Ignorance is not an excuse for bad parenting.

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                              Ignorance is not an excuse for bad parenting.

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                              Damn, got 'em. Actually, they deserve to lose $16,000 while raising a gambling addict because they didn't pull up their bootstraps and micromanage everything their preteen does in "that colorful game they play."

                              Mate, asking under-13s to get parent permission is provoking that good parenting you seem to care about anyway—what on earth is the problem?

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                                Damn, got 'em. Actually, they deserve to lose $16,000 while raising a gambling addict because they didn't pull up their bootstraps and micromanage everything their preteen does in "that colorful game they play."

                                Mate, asking under-13s to get parent permission is provoking that good parenting you seem to care about anyway—what on earth is the problem?

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                                Parental controls (or just not inputting card details into a phone the child has access to) is a fairly effective way to prevent the child spending the parent's money without then knowing. Micromanagement is not typically considered good parenting; however showing interest in, and having some knowledge of, what your child spends significant time doing is.

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                                  Parental controls (or just not inputting card details into a phone the child has access to) is a fairly effective way to prevent the child spending the parent's money without then knowing. Micromanagement is not typically considered good parenting; however showing interest in, and having some knowledge of, what your child spends significant time doing is.

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                                  Okay. So is requiring under-13s to ask their parents. I don't see what the issue is.

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                                    Okay. So is requiring under-13s to ask their parents. I don't see what the issue is.

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                                    the issue is forcing everyone for giving up sensitive personal information.

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                                      the issue is forcing everyone for giving up sensitive personal information.

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                                      Okay. So argue about that then. What does bad parenting have to do with it?

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                                        Okay. So argue about that then. What does bad parenting have to do with it?

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                                        Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

                                        This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

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                                          Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

                                          This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

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                                          No, you're making it one to sidestep an issue.

                                          If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that "no one has any common sense anymore," or whatever you're doing, isn't a solution.

                                          I do blame the game a little because it's a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.

                                          Let me ask you this question, hm? You don't want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. Why not: $80 up front, all banners are periodic DLCs, some of them free, there is more than enough korok seeds in game to get all of them, and they never expire—infinite time to twiddle your thumbs before completing them. Would this not solve your ID problem?

                                          That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?

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