Is there a "normie" or more mainstream instance for Lemmy?
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I distinctly remember liberal messages rising to the top on Reddit, stuff like that you should just accept that you have to go out and work for a living. That's not left!
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10s of millions of "left wing" (read, the entire spectrum from center to marx) folks believe that, for better or worse.
That opinion is entirely valid as "left wing" but certainly isn't very left, on an absolute scale.
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Yes, I agree. Most people in the US are definitely not Marxist-Leninist, yet that's a vibe i get here frequently.
A more mainstream instance for normal people would be nice. Maybe there should be a non-profit organization behind it to back it up, pay the server bills, and such.
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I disagree. Having some kind of grievance with capitalism an sich is central to being leftwing.
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If left-wing covers all concepts left of center, and many mild left policy still incorporates capitalism, then it can't be reduced that strictly. I could agree that progressive or far left policy isn't compatible with capitalism
Edit either way, we disagree on semantics. It's off topic for the original question now (I'm not sticking that on you, I contributed to this semantic rabbit hole)
To circle it back, I think there's a way to invite "normies", maintain left leaning (even very left leaning) positions, and not compromise the platform.
Edit edit and I think that's possible without purity testing or shotgunning people with theory
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Many people block all political communities and keywords. It's definitely viable.
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If you block political words and Linux this place is a ghost town...
... Except for LotR memes of course.
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Lemmy world is basically still Reddit. so that one
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Honestly liberals probably fit into lemmy fine. I’ve seen my fair share.
But your view of “normie” is heavily american centric. Your normies are probably far right in much of the world.
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Your friend is confused. Leftism is inherently anti-capitalist so she can’t be a leftist unless she wants to ditch capitalism.
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Most people in say America define Left Right on the current political spectrum, with Democrats on the left and Republicans on the Right.
It's like when people talk about work, we know they're not actually talking about Force times Distance as defined by Newtonian physics, we understand they are talking about their job.
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Americans do not get their own definition for philosophies.
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I seriously doubt most normies would enjoy Lemmy. But sh.itjust.works seems pretty middle of the road.
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It's the same in most countries. In Canada, we put the NDP on the Left, Liberals generally centre Left, Conservatives on the Right and the Bloc... well, they do Bloc things.
Similar set up in most places. In common conversation, Left Right mean a standard political spectrum.
If I said I went to work, have I redefined Newtonian physics?
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Thanks, I'll check it out!
I just love the idea of non corpo social media but to get the network effects to scale we need the normies...!
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press x to doubt
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No, it isn't. Unless you are Eurocentric and ignore most nationsliberalism is where the left starts though liberalism isn't "leftist". The right is authoritarianism. This is true all around the world.
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Those were definitely words!
Can you give a couple examples of countries where the major left party/parties is/are anti capitalist?
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I don't think you understand leftism. Economic leftism (Socialism, Marxism, Communism) is inherently anti capitalist. The social spectrum of left and right is pointless. I am not necessarily a Liberal but I would define myself as a leftist. I do not consider liberals to be inherently leftists.
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Like I've said repeatedly, in the popular context and most common words used by people, Left wing has different definition.
To re-use the example above, if I said I went to work, have I redefined Newtonian physics? Or would you understand that work has different meanings depending on context?
