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What features are missing from piefed, or, why aren't we reccommending piefed instead of lemmy?

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  • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

    This comm is much bigger, and I happened to be on my .ee account at the time.

    e: And I've used this account for longer, so I don't want to abandon it.

    blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on last edited by
    #66

    And I’ve used this account for longer, so I don’t want to abandon it.

    Probably the main reason why people won't move to Piefed either

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    • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

      Does it really matter when you can access the same content from Piefed? It's one of fedi's great strengths that different experiences can be tailored on the same platform.

      snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #67

      It doesn't matter, true. We can see every comments in a crossposted post. But on the other hand Blaze is also right. 🙂

      I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. 🙂

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      • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

        Yep! We should probably move some comms to piefed, so that .world doesn't control too much, but not to piefed specifically.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #68

        not to piefed specifically.

        Why not? I'm not saying to move everything, but a few communities to Piefed could be nice. A few to Mbin too to keep everyone happy.

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        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

          Yep! We should probably move some comms to piefed, so that .world doesn't control too much, but not to piefed specifically.

          flamingos@feddit.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #69

          There's also three Fediverse comms (here, ml and zip) like do we really need another one?

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          • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

            It doesn't matter, true. We can see every comments in a crossposted post. But on the other hand Blaze is also right. 🙂

            I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. 🙂

            blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #70

            I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. 🙂

            With our current situation, it's just that most of the things are going to happen on Lemmy. New app update? it's a Lemmy app. New monthly active user milestone reached? Lemmy is probably the main reason.

            Hopefully things will get more balanced over time, but we can't expect a perfect 1/3 split of posts between the three platforms.

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            • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

              There's also three Fediverse comms (here, ml and zip) like do we really need another one?

              blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #71

              here

              4 days delay with aussie.zone https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535

              ml

              Power tripping admins https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

              Zip

              Single mod who didn't want to create a meta posts to ask for more mods.

              I studied the situation before starting to post to [email protected]

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              • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                here

                4 days delay with aussie.zone https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535

                ml

                Power tripping admins https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

                Zip

                Single mod who didn't want to create a meta posts to ask for more mods.

                I studied the situation before starting to post to [email protected]

                flamingos@feddit.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #72

                Has world really not enabled parallel sending yet? That feature was made specifically for them.

                Single mod who didn’t want to create a meta posts to ask for more mods.

                But the sidebar does say to DM them if you're interested in modding. Not wanting a meta post is weird though.

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  I told him the same thing about its lemmy repport that i wished something less lemmy centric. 🙂

                  With our current situation, it's just that most of the things are going to happen on Lemmy. New app update? it's a Lemmy app. New monthly active user milestone reached? Lemmy is probably the main reason.

                  Hopefully things will get more balanced over time, but we can't expect a perfect 1/3 split of posts between the three platforms.

                  snoopy@piefed.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #73

                  Yep but considering your activities, you can tell them more about PieFed and Mbin. It will help reach a more balanced software's use. 🙂

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                  • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                    Yep but considering your activities, you can tell them more about PieFed and Mbin. It will help reach a more balanced software's use. 🙂

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                    #74

                    Didn't I with the Mbin post yesterday?

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                    • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                      I can add a piefed account as a mod to a community I mod right now.

                      rglullis@communick.newsR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #75

                      How many people like you are using PieFed right now?

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                      • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                        Has world really not enabled parallel sending yet? That feature was made specifically for them.

                        Single mod who didn’t want to create a meta posts to ask for more mods.

                        But the sidebar does say to DM them if you're interested in modding. Not wanting a meta post is weird though.

                        blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #76

                        Has world really not enabled parallel sending yet? That feature was made specifically for them.

                        I just checked the graph, its now 4.26 days.

                        Not wanting a meta post is weird though.

                        Every time I had a mod refusing meta posts it lead to power tripping. Better safe than sorry

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                        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                          If only activitypub c2s didn't suck.

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                          #77

                          ActivityPub C2S is not the the solution. It still requires a server and it still keeps the admins in control of everything.

                          ActivityPods seems to be going in the right direction, though...

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                          • flamingos@feddit.ukF [email protected]

                            You guys are a lot braver than me lol, I'd never run the Lemmy main branch in prod.

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                            #78

                            Running a main branch in production is beyond insanity.

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                              #79

                              Interstellar works with PieFed now although the API it uses is only enabled on one instance https://preferred.social as we're still testing it out.

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                              • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                                Fair point, but mobile apps and inertia seem to outweigh those additional features

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                                #80

                                If you use a mobile app then whether your account is on Lemmy or PieFed makes no difference - most of your experience will be determined by which app you choose.

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                                • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

                                  Running a main branch in production is beyond insanity.

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                                  #81

                                  Welcome to the jungle

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                                  • nusm@yall.theatl.socialN [email protected]

                                    You may not be from the US, but in the US smartphone market, as of late 2024, iOS (Apple) holds a larger market share than Android, with iOS at around 58% and Android at 42%.

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                                    #82

                                    The US isn't the only country, and I bet people using the fediverse skew heavily toward android in the US anyway.

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                                    • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                      If you use a mobile app then whether your account is on Lemmy or PieFed makes no difference - most of your experience will be determined by which app you choose.

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                                      #83

                                      Indeed, but at the moment only Interstellar has alpha support for Piefed.

                                      Once the Thunder for is released, and Voyager, Arctic, Summit etc start to support Piefed, then it will be the case.

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                                      • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                        Interstellar works with PieFed now although the API it uses is only enabled on one instance https://preferred.social as we're still testing it out.

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                                        #84

                                        Is Interstellar support complete? I thought it was still in alpha/beta phase

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                                        • avidamoeba@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                                          We have data on what it costs to run a sizeable instance of Lemmy and it's not a lot. How does Piefed compare? Anyone starting an instance who envisions it growing large has to contend with this question.

                                          There are now sizeable communities run on Lemmy instances that are reinforced by network effects. There needs to be a significant reason for them to migrate.

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                                          #85

                                          We won't 100% know the answer to that until we get there. But in 2025 fear of a lack of CPU cores is NOT what keeps me awake at night.

                                          Early performance results are positive. Check these links out:

                                          https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/13/technical-performance-of-each-fediverse-platform/

                                          https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/

                                          There are many many ways to ruin web app performance and choice of backend language is not really a big one. It's what you do with it that counts.

                                          https://piefed.social is running on a low end VPS which costs $7.50 per month. Load average is about 1.45 during the busiest part of the day. Most of the load is caused by federating with lemmy.world and that won't increase as more users come on board.

                                          PieFed is already really efficient with storage. After 16 months of operation, subscribed to every popular community, the piefed.social DB is 30 GB and the media storage is 28 GB. A Lemmy instance would be 10x that.

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