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Stop Killing Games has exceeded 1.3 million signatures!

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  • mentaledge@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

    Does the US have citizens iniatives?

    This isn't just a change.org petition. In the EU (and a lot of member countries) theres a system for citizens initiatives, which have the same or similar legal weight as laws proposed by legislators.

    That doesn't mean the proposed laws get passed, but it does mean the people can bypass the politicians in order to at least get something onto the starting line.

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    They had the "We the people" platform, started by Obama. But Trump started ripping it apart, and Biden pulled the plug on his first day in the office.

    And even then instead of being people driven, the US administration would choose what they want to address or not. For all the excesses of EU bureaucracy, there are plenty cases like this where it prevents politicians from ignoring people's concerns; they can still refuse to act, but at least the petition system forces them to go on record.

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      it’s just name/age/address. And I expect a decent chunk to be from outside the US because people are terrible at following directions when an issue pertains to them.

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      From Belgium it was also necessary to provide your social security number. And as more EU countries are moving towards e-id, I would assume there will be a negligible amount of non-EU signings.

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        I feel kinda helpless as an American watching the petition grow. I wonder what would happen if an American petition got big, would corporate America kill it? Would it get traction? Idk...

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        Don't worry too much. If the EU passes legislation for this, you'll likely benefit from it as well, similar to all the other pro consumer things spilling over.

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          So… when do we get to play Concord? I assume that’s what this is all about.

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          Thankfully for publishers and unfortunately for us, it is not retroactive. But I do wish that it was.

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          • the16bitgamer@programming.devT [email protected]

            Link for those who've yet to see it/sign the petition: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

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            These posts are borderline spam, just to save a few shitty live service games.

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              it’s just name/age/address. And I expect a decent chunk to be from outside the US because people are terrible at following directions when an issue pertains to them.

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              For me i had to write my personal number which is not something you could just guess on the fly so i dont think its so easy to fake signatures.

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                These posts are borderline spam, just to save a few shitty live service games.

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                https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

                If you have time to complain, you have time to sign! Not EU citizen? Then spread the word!

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                  These posts are borderline spam, just to save a few shitty live service games.

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                  If you're gonna be a troll you can at least be good at it.

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                    I'm so glad to see that this has gotten so far. When I saw Ross' video on it I thought it was probably over. I hope some good change will come of this in the future.

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                    Who is "Ross"?

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                      From Belgium it was also necessary to provide your social security number. And as more EU countries are moving towards e-id, I would assume there will be a negligible amount of non-EU signings.

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                      Just logged in via CSAM, didn't need to take out my eID or enter INSZ.

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                        Thankfully for publishers and unfortunately for us, it is not retroactive. But I do wish that it was.

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                        if the game you bought isnt really yours, than sailing the high seas isnt really theft. I love the EU for their consumer rights agendas.

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                          These posts are borderline spam, just to save a few shitty live service games.

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                          I'm actually going to remove my downvote and reserve judgement until a response.

                          What games do you play, and what games do you think this movement is targeting?

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                            Who is "Ross"?

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                            from Friends obviously

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                              Who is "Ross"?

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                              VideogameRoss is a youtube guy who really pioneered this whole movement. He has a series devoted to really old niche games that is really interesting (Ross' Game Dungeon). I'd highly reccomend looking into his standard content and the don't kill games afterward.

                              Edit: Also his voiceover halflife series is likely the best protagonist commentary series ever.

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                                Thankfully for publishers and unfortunately for us, it is not retroactive. But I do wish that it was.

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                                Looks like it’s time for the reverse engineering folks to come in.

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                                  Just logged in via CSAM, didn't need to take out my eID or enter INSZ.

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                                  ... dafuq?

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                                    For me i had to write my personal number which is not something you could just guess on the fly so i dont think its so easy to fake signatures.

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                                    It is. There's no system to check if signature exists in your country's ID list. Random number generator +random name generator is enough to "validate" the vote.

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                                    • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                                      VideogameRoss is a youtube guy who really pioneered this whole movement. He has a series devoted to really old niche games that is really interesting (Ross' Game Dungeon). I'd highly reccomend looking into his standard content and the don't kill games afterward.

                                      Edit: Also his voiceover halflife series is likely the best protagonist commentary series ever.

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                                      Edit: Also his voiceover halflife series is likely the best protagonist commentary series ever.

                                      It is. hard to say why but it's quite compelling.

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                                        It is. There's no system to check if signature exists in your country's ID list. Random number generator +random name generator is enough to "validate" the vote.

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                                        Huh thats stupid. You would think they have a database which they check a hash against at least or something. For the user it would look like everything is excepted but in the backend they would only count the valid ones so you cant brute force it. But of course governments never think about stuff like this so why did i expect it was like this.

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                                          ... dafuq?

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                                          https://www.csam.be/en/about-csam.html

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