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  • nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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    I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

    I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

    Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

    Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

    Any tips or ideas?

    oshu@lemmy.worldO captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.orgC G estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.comE A 8 Replies Last reply
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    • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

      I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

      I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

      Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

      Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

      Any tips or ideas?

      oshu@lemmy.worldO This user is from outside of this forum
      oshu@lemmy.worldO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      You can do this easily with Tailscale or a similar wiregaurd vpn.

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      • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

        I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

        I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

        Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

        Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

        Any tips or ideas?

        captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
        captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        I run my Jellyfin on a Synology NAS and it connects to Tailscale on boot. (Doesn’t require any of their cloud stuff to be active, either). Maybe a cheap/used NAS is your answer?

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        • oshu@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

          You can do this easily with Tailscale or a similar wiregaurd vpn.

          nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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          Is it pretty easy to set up on a CLI?

          I'd want to do that if possible.

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          • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

            Is it pretty easy to set up on a CLI?

            I'd want to do that if possible.

            danielquinn@lemmy.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            Yes. Tailscale is surprisingly simple.

            # systemctl start tailscale
            # tailscale up
            
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            • captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.orgC [email protected]

              I run my Jellyfin on a Synology NAS and it connects to Tailscale on boot. (Doesn’t require any of their cloud stuff to be active, either). Maybe a cheap/used NAS is your answer?

              nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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              I already have a stack of Optiplex 30XX SFF PCs. It would be cheaper spending the $100-$200 for a high capacity HDDs TBH. And the idea is that I manage the content on it from my own 30tb store.

              12-16tbs of TV and movies is kind of a lot lol.

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              • danielquinn@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                Yes. Tailscale is surprisingly simple.

                # systemctl start tailscale
                # tailscale up
                
                nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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                Hell yeah

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                • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                  I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                  I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                  Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                  Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                  Any tips or ideas?

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                  #8

                  wg-quick creates a systemd service for each wireguard config you have. So if you set up a tunel called wg0, you should be able to run 'sudo systemctl enable wg-quick@wg0'
                  This will make your tunnel connect on every boot.
                  I have the same setup on my proxmox, so i can reach certain services of my homelab proxied through a root server (the other end of the wireguard tunnel)

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                  • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                    Is it pretty easy to set up on a CLI?

                    I'd want to do that if possible.

                    oshu@lemmy.worldO This user is from outside of this forum
                    oshu@lemmy.worldO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Yes its CLI based

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                    • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                      I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                      I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                      Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                      Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                      Any tips or ideas?

                      estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.comE This user is from outside of this forum
                      estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      Wait, why not create them an account on your instance ?

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                      • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                        I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                        I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                        Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                        Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                        Any tips or ideas?

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                        Are you ready to be tech support for when the “weird box in the corner” stops working?

                        And there’s no mention of how far away these people live; the further away the less likely I setup something like this. I have no desire to try and fix a bootloader issue from 1,000 miles away just to waste several hours and have to ship them a new X.

                        I know this because I’ve done it, and I wouldn’t do it again. If someone doesn’t specifically ask for a home hosted solution (and have some sort of technical knowledge), I never offer a home hosted solution.

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                        • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                          I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                          I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                          Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                          Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                          Any tips or ideas?

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                          Speaking as someone who has recently taken on a far-remote (e.g. about 22 hour drive away) support for a MIL, the best thing you could do is set up a VPN.

                          1. It works both ways (typically) so you can easily remote in to their system when they're on the VPN for updates/troubleshooting
                          2. it minimizes the hardware "on-site" at their location
                          3. Depending on your VPN client, it can have an easy to use GUI, further lowering the barrier if your remote person is tech-inept

                          For me, I'm still on Plex with a very old lifetime account with my MIL using a dedicated user account - that access is over the Internet. The VPN is to provide access to Overseerr so that she can do things like request specific movies/TV shows without having to email/call.

                          It's not perfect - one day I woke up to 26 seasons of "Into the Country", but it works fairly well.

                          I sat down with her one day while visiting about a year or so ago and walked her through connecting to the VPN, then getting to the hosted site, then disconnecting from the VPN - basically running drills and making her take notes until she felt she could do it by herself.

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                          • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                            Is it pretty easy to set up on a CLI?

                            I'd want to do that if possible.

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                            Yep, you can install it directly on the proxmox host too.

                            Just make sure you test it and also test upgrades so you can avoid having to be on-site for those.

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                            • estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.comE [email protected]

                              Wait, why not create them an account on your instance ?

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                              I would guess shitty internet in one or both places making local streaming a better option

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                                Are you ready to be tech support for when the “weird box in the corner” stops working?

                                And there’s no mention of how far away these people live; the further away the less likely I setup something like this. I have no desire to try and fix a bootloader issue from 1,000 miles away just to waste several hours and have to ship them a new X.

                                I know this because I’ve done it, and I wouldn’t do it again. If someone doesn’t specifically ask for a home hosted solution (and have some sort of technical knowledge), I never offer a home hosted solution.

                                nagaram@startrek.websiteN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                15 minutes drive to my MIL and 4 hours to my own Mom.

                                My dad used to do tech support and wants to learn some of this stuff while he's recovering from surgery and I'm at my MILs several times a month anyways. So it all works out. Also it's only fair as the FIL has helped me do so much with my car over the years I wanted to pay them back and he likes movies more than me.

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                                  I would guess shitty internet in one or both places making local streaming a better option

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                                  That's me! Gotta love Spectrum baby!

                                  I actually got into this because I used to have sporadic hour+ long Internet outages when I was trying to watch all of Star Trek.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Speaking as someone who has recently taken on a far-remote (e.g. about 22 hour drive away) support for a MIL, the best thing you could do is set up a VPN.

                                    1. It works both ways (typically) so you can easily remote in to their system when they're on the VPN for updates/troubleshooting
                                    2. it minimizes the hardware "on-site" at their location
                                    3. Depending on your VPN client, it can have an easy to use GUI, further lowering the barrier if your remote person is tech-inept

                                    For me, I'm still on Plex with a very old lifetime account with my MIL using a dedicated user account - that access is over the Internet. The VPN is to provide access to Overseerr so that she can do things like request specific movies/TV shows without having to email/call.

                                    It's not perfect - one day I woke up to 26 seasons of "Into the Country", but it works fairly well.

                                    I sat down with her one day while visiting about a year or so ago and walked her through connecting to the VPN, then getting to the hosted site, then disconnecting from the VPN - basically running drills and making her take notes until she felt she could do it by herself.

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                                    That's not a bad call.

                                    There's fortunately pretty tech literate people at both locations. I can walk them through most of it with very little a long the lines of finger puppets and crayons.

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                                    • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                                      I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                                      I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                                      Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                                      Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                                      Any tips or ideas?

                                      appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      If you wanna mirror the movies: syncthing
                                      Remote: Depends on if you want to install a jump station you VNC/RDP/Teamviewer in or directly access it.

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                                      • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                                        15 minutes drive to my MIL and 4 hours to my own Mom.

                                        My dad used to do tech support and wants to learn some of this stuff while he's recovering from surgery and I'm at my MILs several times a month anyways. So it all works out. Also it's only fair as the FIL has helped me do so much with my car over the years I wanted to pay them back and he likes movies more than me.

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                                        Just making sure you know what you’re in for.

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                                        • nagaram@startrek.websiteN [email protected]

                                          I run my production Jellyfin server and a few other services on a Optiplex sff computer with a thicc hard drive and a low profile GPU.

                                          I want to build two more of these with thicc Hard drives so that my parents and my in-laws can have a local Jellyfin instance that I manage remotely and they just need a box plugged in somewhere at their homes.

                                          Is it possible to make Proxmox build a VPN tunnel on boot so I can just have it in my cluster dash. Like using tailscale or openvpn.

                                          Or am I going to have to go with my original plan and put that on the same box as the Jellyfin server and then just VNC in?

                                          Any tips or ideas?

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          I like to leave ssh over tor hidden service on remote boxes. It's pretty resilient and can serve as emergency access for when something happens to the VPN. Not a great primary access method because of the latency.

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