Can we please, PLEASE for gods sake just all agree that arch is not and will never be a good beginner distro no matter how many times you fork it?
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MX is better than Mint.
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Newbies can not handle apt and just random deb they find in the internet and wonder why linux is so tedious to update
Most noobs I know did not understand what repo management means and are just copy pasting terminal cammands like a madlad or running random bash script with sudo because the developer thought it was the easiest way to get noobs to add their repo
I prefer giving noobs a single place of truth, if no flatpak available, like:
https://software.opensuse.org/packages
Or
AUR
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that, or having good documentation could be a requirement
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And then wonder why everybody having a good time with their nvidia on smooth wayland vs you on your
ancient, ok now only old Kernel since the last ubuntu upgrade, and outdated nvidia drivers.Oh wait, with mint, you are forced to use clunky Xorg aren’t you
I am sure that gives any noob the vibes of using a modern OS like windows/macOS /s
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Uff, great, so I still have 3 to 4 years to teach it to my son
Thanks for that age recommendation 🫡
Was feared he’s already behind
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AMEN!
Fucking hell this is what I've been trying to hammer into people for a long time
If I hit my Alex Jones InfoVape
hard enough I can probably weave a conspiracy theory on how Micro$oft started the "arch btw" meme in order to hurt Linux in the eyes of new users -
Everyday I see people saying they are having issue with Linux and its always because they went straight to arch and used archinstall. They have no idea how any of their system works and when they run into an issue thry do a full system reinstall.
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just because a given person could make it work, doesnt mean they want to. i personally can fix a lot of these issues, but i dont wanna have to bother. i just want to accomplish the inane bullshit and shitposting i turned my computer on for.
i just think an arch recommendation should always come with that disclaimer.
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Hey, you forget about Gentoo Linux!
The real distro for newbies... (Provided the newbies are expert cs graduated and crazy nerds...)
All depends on what a beginner is... Not all beginners are tech illiterates or people who only want to use office.
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That's arguable, but I get where you're coming from.
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i wouldn't wish apt on my enemies. terrible habits with all the ppas and piping curl to bash in every forum post
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wayland is still too unstable for me to recommend. what is clunky about xorg?
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Do you use a modern kernel? And, do you use a multi touch trackpad?
That only works on wayland well.I personally see the difference in for example window movement Xorg VS wayland. And I have more artefacts from window manager if use Xorg BS when O use wayland.
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Debian stable is always outdated and testing is not stable enough. I think Debian is good for servers but not for desktop.
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Mint works like Windows and has a lot to offer any Windows 10 user who's already using FOSS. And tbh Hypnotix alone justified the install of Mint for me. I got a great IPTV viewer, plus a PC that runs everything I want.
Note: I only regularly want Discord, Firefox, Endless Sky, OpenTTD, RetroArch, and LibreOffice. I'm sure everyone else has different goals.
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Mint has worked consistently for me on the PC it's installed on.
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Windows 10 doesn’t feel like a modern OS…
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Just like the ocean is the best body of water for children who want to learn about swimming
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Stable doesn't mean what you think it means. Stable means not updated.
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Then whatever a modern OS is under your model is not an OS I'm willing to use. I've seen Win 11. I'm going to stick with 10, as I stuck with XP through Vista, had a second machine with 7 through 8(.x), and then surrendered and used Win10 when the 32-bit Win7 machine finally stopped working for love or money.
