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Plex has paywalled my server!

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

    Yeah sure. Because a company paywalling functions has anything to do with network configuration.

    What people like you dont understand is that there is no minimum requirement of knowledge to selfhost. It is completely braindead how often i have to tell people how a network works and now i have to explain to people why software configuration is not network configuration.

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    And if you can wipe the foam from your mouth for a second, you'll notice I wrote 'software' not network.

    But in the end all you're here for is a pad on the back from the Jellyfin guys for "seeing the light". So you do you and maybe I won't have to read more of you Plex posts, since you're now in happy Jellyfin land

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    • maggiwuerze@feddit.orgM [email protected]

      So instead of a service that works, I now have:

      • an inferior (and incomplete) client experience, unless I spend money
      • an additional device to allow the client to connect to Jellyfin, because I can't safely expose it to the internet
      • the responsibility to keep all that additional stuff working for myself and everyone of my friends/family members

      sounds like a great deal

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      Your complaining that the free stuff isn't as good as the paid?

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        Your complaining that the free stuff isn't as good as the paid?

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        No, I'm complaining about people who act like Jellyfin is a drop in replacement while ignoring everything that would make it harder to user than Plex. I like Jellyfin and I would like nothing better than to have it as my disposal should POlex actually turn evil one day. But the current state is just not feasible if you want a seamless transition.

        I live in a country with a very active and litigious copyright lawyer scene, so I will not take the risk of my server exposing the contents of my library, even if that is a minor risk.

        When I can run Jellyfin and expose it through a subdomain, I will. But the devs have made it clear that that won't be anytime soon, since they would rather have an insecure app than break compatibility with clients

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        • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

          I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

          I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

          I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

          Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

          Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

          In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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          This is the reason I didn't go with Plex when I was setting up my server.

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          • A [email protected]

            I'm actually not 100% sure how to answer that. It's just a "share" configured through the Unraid UI, being accessed by a docker container running on the same machine (binhex's Jellyfin image.) I think that the "share" in this context is essentially just a mount point, but it's also (optionally) exposed as an SMB share externally.

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            Ahh OK, a Docker bind. 3 things to check:

            1. That you added the folders in that weird way Unraod requires, see: https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-solved-jellyfin-not-detecting-media-in-unraid (this probably isn't it, but worth checking)

            2. Make sure for newly added, Jellyfin is configured for Date File Scanned into Library, vs the Created Date on the file

            3. Ensure the Arrs aren't set to change the date on file import. By default they modify created/modified dates to be the release date, which can put things in an unexpected order.

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            • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

              I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

              I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

              I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

              Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

              Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

              In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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              Im using it locally with no subscription or any payment and it works fine. I stream to other smart tvs on the house not my phone though. If its connected to the local lan you shouldn't have this issue.

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              • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                I know but what you specifically want is not possible. But yet again it doesn't matter because you don't need a VPN when you use a Debrid service.

                At this point you're just harassing me to be a pendantic asshole. So I'm going to do what's best for my mental health and dip out of this conversation. You are exhausting. ✌️

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                You would have saved yourself the headache if you responded to my question with “…what you specifically want is not possible.”

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                • maggiwuerze@feddit.orgM [email protected]

                  It's also always the Jellyfin fans that get emotional about this. Liking Plex is like a cardinal sin to them and I should be happy to migrate my entire viewership to a new solutions that requires them to install a vpn client on their device.

                  Every post I see here about Plex is some variation of Gotcha! or Schadenfreude where they expect everyone to say, "oh no, guess I'll pack it up and start fresh"

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                  2000%.

                  I used to have a list (I might still) of all of the features I was looking for in Jellyfin: if they had all of them I would migrate over. Spoiler Alert: Jellyfin doesn’t have 8/10ths of the features.

                  I think I’m just going to start blocking the rabid Jellyfin fans and save myself the trouble.

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Ahh OK, a Docker bind. 3 things to check:

                    1. That you added the folders in that weird way Unraod requires, see: https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-solved-jellyfin-not-detecting-media-in-unraid (this probably isn't it, but worth checking)

                    2. Make sure for newly added, Jellyfin is configured for Date File Scanned into Library, vs the Created Date on the file

                    3. Ensure the Arrs aren't set to change the date on file import. By default they modify created/modified dates to be the release date, which can put things in an unexpected order.

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                    Thank you! I checked #3 and it's not that. I haven't found the setting for #2 yet, but I just wanted to say I really appreciate your help.

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                      Thank you! I checked #3 and it's not that. I haven't found the setting for #2 yet, but I just wanted to say I really appreciate your help.

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                      Actually #2 may be a brain fart for me. I'm probably thinking of the setting in the Arrs that changes file date to release date.

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