Plex has paywalled my server!
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I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.
I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.
I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.
Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.
Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.
In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.
Welp, i killed mine yesterday as it wouldnt let me stream while offline. Modem died so no Internet for me. Why do i have everything local if it dosent work while offline...
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I’ve never seen the appeal. A simple smb share and Kodi work perfectly fine no?
It's not great with a family, each with multiple devices. Years ago I used it with a central MySQL db, but it was a huge pain and frequently broke with updates.
As mentioned by others, Jellyfin is an amazing alternative and I've been using it for a few years already.
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I thought free software was when you were the product and non-free software actually supported developers.
Or do you mean non-OSS?
Free as in freedom, not as in free beer.
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I’ve never seen the appeal. A simple smb share and Kodi work perfectly fine no?
Not really, if you use Kodi the information on what you have watched remains on the PC running Kodi, if you always watch from the same device that's not a big deal, but if you like to watch stuff on your smart tv, then on your PC, and downloading some to watch on your phone on the go, having the information of which episodes you've watched on the server helps keep things organized.
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Are you saying that you’re on your home network with your Plex server and it won’t let you play your media without paying? That’s not true if so. You must be outside the network.
I've had that happen to me with plex, it was probably 100% my fault because I specifically changed things during the setup of the docker file, but apparently Plex can't figure out that is local if it's running inside docker with non-host network, it probably only accepts local connections from the docker network, and I was never able to make it treat my actual home network as local.
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Creating a tailnet using a custom domain is considered for business use.
Well, that sucks for me. I was planning on using my domain name.
The tailnet domain doesn't really matter that much if you have your own. I just use tailscale IP for everything that's not in adgaurs with a host name already
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The same tailscale that announced last week that they are going to start charging?
It's kinda the same as it was before, as far as I can see, for the personal plan. Looks like they've just added more the ability to add more than 3 users for a fee.
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Welcome to “People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source.”
How do you personally 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt know that Jellyfin is the right solution? Why not a VPN, shared folder, and VLC? What about running a DNLA server?
Edit: All of you downvoting don’t know; and it makes you salty.
Jellyfin has a DLNA plugin
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I thought free software was when you were the product and non-free software actually supported developers.
Or do you mean non-OSS?
"Free Software" is a defined term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
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Welcome to “People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source.”
How do you personally 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt know that Jellyfin is the right solution? Why not a VPN, shared folder, and VLC? What about running a DNLA server?
Edit: All of you downvoting don’t know; and it makes you salty.
You mean a morally "right" solution?
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I thought self hosting was about learning networking basics like DNS and setting up let's encrypt.
So much whining in here about the most simple stuff being too complex.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I disagree; Self-hosting is for a variety of things, and plenty of people (in fact, I’d say probably the majority of Plex users) just want to be able to pirate Netflix without a ton of setup.
Is learning some networking inevitable? Yeah, probably. But I also think this xkcd is apt. The reality is that what may be simple for you and me actually requires a lot of studying for a complete novice. Plenty of people will need to google what a port is, let alone how to forward one. And that’s assuming they even know the word “port” to google. Plenty of people won’t even know where to start.
And true novices are hopefully going to be extremely wary of any info they find online. It’s easy to fuck something up without even realizing it, and leave your entire system exposed; especially when the braindead “lol just forward your Jellyfin port and use your public IP” advice is posted somewhere in every single advice thread.
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OP is also in the allegedly ultra rare camp of “successfully configured Jellyfin and lived to tell the tale.” Not what I’d expect of someone unable to configure Plex correctly. I’ve not set up a Plex server myself but my guess is it wasn’t clear that it was misconfigured - it did work previously, after all.
I can't speak for OP, but I self host lots of stuff, have literally dozens of services running, have an Ansible repo to manage it all and routi some stuff through a VPS, not to mention my day job has included managing services in one way or another for a long while. This is to say, I know what I'm doing. I couldn't setup Plex to work the way I wanted to, they expect it to run in a docker with network set to host mode, I couldn't find any way to tell Plex that my living room TV was in the same network, it just wouldn't accept any connections as local. I know I shot myself in the foot here by not letting it run with network on host mode, but I shouldn't have to, the port was exposed, I could reach it through the local network IP, but I wasn't able to stream any content locally.
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To set it up “correctly”, yes. It’ll require owning your own domain, being able to configure it properly (with either a static IP, or DDNS to point to your server at home), knowing how to automate https certificate refreshes, and a few other things. Plex just requires forwarding a port in your router.
Worse. Exposing Jellyfin to the internet is a bad idea given the teams stance on security.
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415#issue-824791596The only safe way to host jellyfin is with a vpn.
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OP has a misconfigured server and isn't connecting to their server over LAN.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just because the destination IP address is not a LAN address? That's not misconfiguration, that's a legitimate use of NAT reflection/loopback. If that's how it determines who is streaming remotely then just run it behind nginx that forgets to set the correct headers.
Edit: Apparently Plex centrally relays all the traffic? Self-hosted my
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The tailnet domain doesn't really matter that much if you have your own. I just use tailscale IP for everything that's not in adgaurs with a host name already
Or even just use the tailnet domain you can generate.
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Welp, i killed mine yesterday as it wouldnt let me stream while offline. Modem died so no Internet for me. Why do i have everything local if it dosent work while offline...
Exactly. Thats why i use jellyfin now. Try installing it alongside. For me it worked well.
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I’ve never seen the appeal. A simple smb share and Kodi work perfectly fine no?
Smb means you have to download the whole file. That isnt gonna fly in every configuration. But jellyfin does the trick easily.
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If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass, well you're in luck because the Torrentio plug-in is compatible with Debrid services (Real-Debrid is a good one). They're cheaper than a VPN (less than €3/mo) and get you direct downloads which ISPs don't care about since you're not distributing files like you would with a torrent client. What's nice is that they work with any torrent—not just video—so you can download wherever you want at 1gbps speeds so long as the torrent has at least one seed. Since you're not actually interacting with the torrents themselves, there's no need for a VPN.
Setup is easy. The only thing you need to do is install the Stremio app on your TV, then open it and install the Torrentio plug-in. From there you configure your preferences like preferred resolution, language, etc, enter your Debrid service credentials if you have them; after that you install additional plug-ins for the kind of content you want. I'd recommend starting off with the Streaming Catalogs (lists popular content from Netflix, Amazon, Disney HBO, etc.)and Trakt.tv plug-ins (recommends content based on your viewing habits). There's also plug-ins for anime if that's your thing. Once you install the plug-ins you like, the only thing left to do is pick something to watch and enjoy.
You can also download the Stremio app to your phone and configure everything from there if you don't want to fumble with doing all of this with the TV remote. I'd recommend doing it this way so that all you have to do on the TV is fire up the Stremio app and enjoy.
If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass
Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.
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Saying software does not have huge ongoing costs shows you’ve never worked on any huge software system. My works ongoing costs for hosting/scaling/storing data are millions of dollars a year.
You're both right and wrong.
Its like saying "saying a company is easy to run shows you have never run an huge company."
Both are false dychotomies. The amount of hosting costs, manpower, etc does not come from the project but how it is set up.
If you have to run servers for a software at all determines the cost for hosting for example. Same for every other aspect.
Linux is a huge software project I'm working on. Yet the cost of it is a joke compared to its size. It has way more users than plex.
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Are you saying that you’re on your home network with your Plex server and it won’t let you play your media without paying? That’s not true if so. You must be outside the network.
That is exactly the case. It is absolutely true and accusing me of lying is not okay.
