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  • K [email protected]

    Thank you for the link.

    And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.

    Didn't say that you are. But for some reason you are arguing with me while I'm just saying that he doesn't deserve all that. If we agree on that don't know why you're concerned with my comments.

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    When you're telling me there's no need to swat him, that implies that I seem to think that there is. Because why else would you bring up such a negative action and explain it's something we don't need to do?

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      Care to elaborate on what he said and how it was wrong? Or....

      Edit: down voting someone asking for clarification does not make your side look better or more right, you know, guys. The guy essentially said "nuh uh" like that was a strong argument, and I said "because?". Seriously, chill out.

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      He pretended like this would force studios to publish sourcecode and that they have to give up on drm. I am not shure if he or someone else said this but someone also pretendet like new laws would somehow retroactivly apply to all games and now sstudios would have to give up server code that propably has thrid party software in it that they dont have the right license to just release it.( this is also a point i read alot from comments everywwhere and its stupid.) First, anny new law will take a ton of time untill it iss written then passed and then goes into effect. If this law passes studios will know way in advanced that upcoming releases in the eu would be under this new law and therefore can take this into account when builsing their infrastructure for online play/drm like in case of the crew.

      Also anyone who is active in piracy forums where devs work on stuffk ows that they dont need aourcecode to get it running. People will chow through assembly if they want to make a game work, some decompiled lego island over the course of a year to preserve it.

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      • D [email protected]

        Let's brigade people more for speaking and thinking differently. There should only be one correct opinion and anyone who disagrees should be shunned.

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        You mean "lets have people say whatever they want without any consequences or repercussions, no matter how wrong or hurtful they are"?

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          When you're telling me there's no need to swat him, that implies that I seem to think that there is. Because why else would you bring up such a negative action and explain it's something we don't need to do?

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          My point was that this rage mill has produced a lot of extreme negativity and this post, among others, and the comment thread within, is propogating it. And, as far as I can tell, it is over, at best, Thor taking the possibilities of this petition as written to the extreme to illustrate his concerns for its vagueness. And even if he is dead wrong, completely mistaken, and now knows it and won't admit to it, that does not, in anyway, justify the position he is put in now. I'm not say that you personally support him being swatted, or getting death threats, but not letting this shit go after a year of bullshit, letting it fester and boosting the rage, that's what leads to that shit. Just let it go.

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          • m0op0o@mander.xyzM [email protected]

            Again, I answer. A lot of people.

            This man has allowed his hubris and ego to destroy him, a story people like to see. The petition is not yet done and is now getting hate articles done on it (odd that). People are still posting about him as he is now the poster child of a shitty industry most dislike. The harassing of the studio he worked for is news to me (and I think a lot of people as it does not seem to have yet happened).

            People who "move on" like you are talking about are a modern day plague, its how we get the absolute clown world we now live in. Have some principle and integrity.

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            That's a pretty twisted way to view the world. We are fundamentally different kinds of people. I think are done here. No way we will agree on anything if that's how you think.

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              It was said during streams, but yes, I did find a video that captured it, the clips of the quotes end at about 7 min and start from where I linked.

              https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=371

              Yes. People can disagree, disagreeing doesn't mean someone must be wrong or mistaken. But in this case. He very much was wrong and mistaken.

              And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.

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              Update: only just got a chance to watch it and his "eat my entire ass comment" seems not to be related to the initiative itself but to the way Ross framed how the initiative was going to be easy to make into law becuase of a bunch of really weird reasons unrelated to the merit of the initiative that seemed very backhanded and sketchy. I completely agree that Ross's comment were incredibly slimy and cynical even as I still mostly agree with the initiative. Just seems like people are taking the comment out of that context and getting pissed over something he didnt actually say or mean about the initiative itself. And, as i said before, I couldn't give two fucks about personal beef between creators. I know nothing about Ross Scott and have only seen him in this context.

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                He pretended like this would force studios to publish sourcecode and that they have to give up on drm. I am not shure if he or someone else said this but someone also pretendet like new laws would somehow retroactivly apply to all games and now sstudios would have to give up server code that propably has thrid party software in it that they dont have the right license to just release it.( this is also a point i read alot from comments everywwhere and its stupid.) First, anny new law will take a ton of time untill it iss written then passed and then goes into effect. If this law passes studios will know way in advanced that upcoming releases in the eu would be under this new law and therefore can take this into account when builsing their infrastructure for online play/drm like in case of the crew.

                Also anyone who is active in piracy forums where devs work on stuffk ows that they dont need aourcecode to get it running. People will chow through assembly if they want to make a game work, some decompiled lego island over the course of a year to preserve it.

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                Thank you for the good faith response.

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                • K [email protected]

                  That's a pretty twisted way to view the world. We are fundamentally different kinds of people. I think are done here. No way we will agree on anything if that's how you think.

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                  I am not sure you can say that after trying to tell people how to act.

                  If being active and engaged on a topic is a "twisted way to view the world" then why are you here on Lemmy?

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                    The YouTuber noted that his opinion on the initiative has led players to review-bomb the company's new releases. To avoid further harm to their reputation, he's terminated the partnership indefinitely. "I am no longer working at Offbrand Games,"

                    The damage is done now. He isn't likable, took a big loss on his part, almost took down his collabs with himself.

                    Let this be a lesson in being humble about your public appearence. He's essentially being featured in some questionable forums, I believe. This was absolutely not worth it for him.

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                    I don't understand why he's getting flamed so hard. I get that it's an unpopular take, but the reaction is way overboard. Why is the community like this?

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                    • m0op0o@mander.xyzM [email protected]

                      Please stop felatioing the game companies. The issue everyone had on his hot take is that by the very same logic no regulation on any company is warranted, and that is insane. Its just more of a bad industry wanting to have their cake and eat it as well.

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                      This is why I hate this community right here. I answered the person's question and gave him what pirates view point was while calling out these gaming corporations and explained what they will probably do if a bill like this passes and your take away is I am "felationing" (not a word) game companies.

                      Just droves of window lickers like you infest this space and any nuanced conversations get lost.

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                        your takeaway from individual people being unhappy after everything that has come to light about an individual popular person is missing the actual situation/thing that is happening right in front of you? quite a bit more went on than "differing opinion" and even then people are luckily allowed to be upset and it is even easy to understand when it is an influential person, welcome to the internet.

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                        welcome to the internet

                        Yeah, this is the sucky part about the modern internet. It used to be that the internet was a place for discussion and we've twisted it to a place to enforce conformity.

                        I don't know anything about this guy, so maybe there's a more established pattern here, but ideally we don't jump down someone's throat when they do one or two unpopular things, but instead wait for a pattern to emerge before getting out the pitchforks. But everyone needs to be first, because the first one gets the eyeballs and there's not much downside to ruining someone's reputation unnecessarily.

                        It's stupid and I hate it.

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                          This is why I hate this community right here. I answered the person's question and gave him what pirates view point was while calling out these gaming corporations and explained what they will probably do if a bill like this passes and your take away is I am "felationing" (not a word) game companies.

                          Just droves of window lickers like you infest this space and any nuanced conversations get lost.

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                          "I see what he's worried about" they mumble around a mouthful of profit oriented testicles.

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                            Also, “dot” with a hard T is like super common in programming naming. It’s a pretty reasonable mistake to make.

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                            And the mascot is a robot, it makes sense to assume it rhymes.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Ubuntu.

                              Oo boon too?

                              Oo bun too?

                              Pretty sure the correct pronunciation is the first, but a lot of people say it as the second.

                              ... lets just name the next big FOSS thing 'Uranus' and watch everyone disagree about how to pronounce that, very loudly.

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                              I use openSUSE, and they made a music video and everything to teach people to pronounce it yet people still get it wrong. Such is life I guess.

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                                Exactly, seems competent. But only seems, he's a narcissistic nepobaby who just can't admit he's in the wrong be it in video games or real life.

                                I just can't understand why anyone would follow a piece of shit like him

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                                Are his parents rich?

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                                • K [email protected]

                                  "I see what he's worried about" they mumble around a mouthful of profit oriented testicles.

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                                  Also without stating any actual concerns while fighting their gag reflexes.

                                  Edit: Also the children yearn for the mines, they say while telling people not to be concerned about non corporate interests. After all the companies interests are basicly our own.....

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                                    He pretended like this would force studios to publish sourcecode and that they have to give up on drm. I am not shure if he or someone else said this but someone also pretendet like new laws would somehow retroactivly apply to all games and now sstudios would have to give up server code that propably has thrid party software in it that they dont have the right license to just release it.( this is also a point i read alot from comments everywwhere and its stupid.) First, anny new law will take a ton of time untill it iss written then passed and then goes into effect. If this law passes studios will know way in advanced that upcoming releases in the eu would be under this new law and therefore can take this into account when builsing their infrastructure for online play/drm like in case of the crew.

                                    Also anyone who is active in piracy forums where devs work on stuffk ows that they dont need aourcecode to get it running. People will chow through assembly if they want to make a game work, some decompiled lego island over the course of a year to preserve it.

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                                    Yeap, and also that this will be the end of multiplayer games (bullshit in the extreme)

                                    The irony of a guy called pirate software pushing for DRM on its own is, wild.

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                                      You mean "lets have people say whatever they want without any consequences or repercussions, no matter how wrong or hurtful they are"?

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                                      Honestly I think Pirate Software was 90 percent in the wrong. He misunderstood the thrust of the Stop Killing Games movement and took his discourse too far.
                                      I think it's a little gross how much we've chosen to pile on as a community.
                                      In the real world we have in front of us some of the ideas put forth by Stop Killing Games will actually be hard for companies to implement. I don't feel bad for them nor do I support the murder of games. It's just not a simple prospect.

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                                        I don't like pirate software like any other guy, but I want to put credit where credit is due.

                                        He wasn't ranting about Godot being woke last year. He was actually actively defending it from all the bigots. One of the very few YouTubers or streamers, I saw.

                                        You have probably mistaken him with Asmongold.
                                        He has long hair too, and he is right wing nutjob pos.

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                                        Oh shoot, wasn't Asmongold censored out of the new bbno$ music video? There was some text at the start that said "I'm sorry, I didn't know about redacted's shitty views" and one of the people has a raptor image digitally inserted over his face for the whole video.

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                                          welcome to the internet

                                          Yeah, this is the sucky part about the modern internet. It used to be that the internet was a place for discussion and we've twisted it to a place to enforce conformity.

                                          I don't know anything about this guy, so maybe there's a more established pattern here, but ideally we don't jump down someone's throat when they do one or two unpopular things, but instead wait for a pattern to emerge before getting out the pitchforks. But everyone needs to be first, because the first one gets the eyeballs and there's not much downside to ruining someone's reputation unnecessarily.

                                          It's stupid and I hate it.

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                                          I think I'm just tired of being handed a pitchfork whenever I browse YouTube or read about Stop Killing Games.

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