That's in line with being from Switzerland.
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That's in line with being from Switzerland.
Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest.
Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only.
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That's in line with being from Switzerland.
Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest.
Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only.
You are free to call me racist.I am Swiss myself and I feel like things are changing since Trumps second term, at least my friends seek closer ties to Europe now.
Proton gives me a bad feeling in the stomach, I would encourage people to not trust it. The guy is either a big USA fan or most of his customers are from there. The best option for e-mail is selfhost + pgp, the second best option are the various small companies offering email all across Europe.
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I am Swiss myself and I feel like things are changing since Trumps second term, at least my friends seek closer ties to Europe now.
Proton gives me a bad feeling in the stomach, I would encourage people to not trust it. The guy is either a big USA fan or most of his customers are from there. The best option for e-mail is selfhost + pgp, the second best option are the various small companies offering email all across Europe.
Does Europe in your first sentence mean the EU or Europe in general, maybe even including Russia?
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Does Europe in your first sentence mean the EU or Europe in general, maybe even including Russia?
Russia
lol Russia is not particularly popular here right now, we are even on their list of "unfriendly countries" if you didn't know.
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That's in line with being from Switzerland.
Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest.
Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only.
You are free to call me racist.Tuta isnt really a replacement for proton. They dont even support PGP encryption, which is kinda the whole point of proton.
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That's in line with being from Switzerland.
Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest.
Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only.
You are free to call me racist.Some of the initial people involved did their university and post grad studies in the US, so they seem more American than Swiss to me and more chose Switzerland to conduct business after starting the company up after meeting at CERN.
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Tuta isnt really a replacement for proton. They dont even support PGP encryption, which is kinda the whole point of proton.
Tuta uses standard algorithms also being used by PGP (AES and RSA or ECC) for encrypting the entire mailbox. In addition, Tuta Mail already uses post-quantum cryptography (Kyber) for quantum safe accounts, which is still a work in progress for PGP. Furthermore, Tuta does not use an implementation of PGP itself because PGP lacks important requirements that we have for Tuta
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Russia
lol Russia is not particularly popular here right now, we are even on their list of "unfriendly countries" if you didn't know.
One of the "countries" in that list is the whole EU. That makes it practically meaningless when they have countries like Hungary licking they ass day and night.
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Tuta uses standard algorithms also being used by PGP (AES and RSA or ECC) for encrypting the entire mailbox. In addition, Tuta Mail already uses post-quantum cryptography (Kyber) for quantum safe accounts, which is still a work in progress for PGP. Furthermore, Tuta does not use an implementation of PGP itself because PGP lacks important requirements that we have for Tuta
Thats kinda bullshit. Find me how you can send PGP emails to someone off tuta. You can't. They disabled it.
With proton its one click.
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Thats kinda bullshit. Find me how you can send PGP emails to someone off tuta. You can't. They disabled it.
With proton its one click.
They give a reason.
And, if this is what we are talking about, sending a PGP email to a non Proton still requires more than one click and agreement equal, in my experience, to sharing a password for encrypted emails on Tuta.
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They give a reason.
And, if this is what we are talking about, sending a PGP email to a non Proton still requires more than one click and agreement equal, in my experience, to sharing a password for encrypted emails on Tuta.
Proton has an API for getting the PGP keys of all their users. I can send any proton user an encrypted email, and I attach my public key to the email (Thunderbird does this by default).
Then the user only has to click the "trust key" button and all their future emails will be encrypted to my PGP key. It's 1 click for them.
Tutanota has no way to do this. I read why, but its nonsense. PGP for e2ee is better than no e2ee. Tuta is naked and not a replacement for proton.
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