Canada 'will stand up to a bully', says Mark Carney

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War yes, peace no. If you know many Canadians who'd act as suicide bombers, maybe the analogy is correct.

Just - being livid about something is not the same as sacrificing your life to fight it.

People talking about savagery and brutality don't quite get, it seems, that they'll likely die very soon. But when faced with a decision. That's the point where most go to their occupations other than writing heroics in the interwebs.

There are plenty of people in the US itself calling Trump fascist etc, are they committing such acts of resistance as to force fascism out of their areas? Why would anything with Canada be much different?

In any case, I'm just getting that feel that many things in the world will be remade with pain and blood. I doubt Canada is among them.

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I dont think you know anything about this country.

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Yes, and I’m showing that the action they were forced into was so small as to be essentially meaningless. So, that undermines their accomplishments, wouldn’t you say?

Not for the people who use it? You know, our poorest people?

All our lives? Again, is this dental plan open to everyone?

So just to be clear, no party has done anything ever because it didn't impact every single citizen? What the hell is this insane criterion?

This is the least Canadian response I've ever heard, where help is useless unless every person gets something. I don't care if it 'only' helped poor children, it was a massive achievement and worth doing.

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Not for the people who use it? You know, our poorest people?

Great, you're admitting what I said. It's not available to everyone. Thanks, we're done here.

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I don't want to be a downer, but realistically considering the impact of this Canada is probably going to have to acquiesce at least temporarily.

Trump is applying cold, calculating business logic to this; Canada needs to do business with the US to a large degree, if that becomes costly their (relatively) small economy becomes less viable without reform which they don't have time to implement.

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% behind Canada in fighting this but realistically it's not a fight they're going to win.

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The text is hinting at a kind of conspiracy where you deliberately cause a market to crash and then just buy everything cheaply. I don't necessarily subscribe to that theory.

The meme is saying a blanket 25% retaliatory tariff is not a good idea but targeting specific items might be beneficial. I tend to agree with this. No point applying a tariff to goods for which there is no alternative.

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There's a few comments like this, but what would rolling over look like and / or why would a country do that?

The entirely expected and appropriate response is to apply retaliatory tariffs. This doesn't take bravery and isn't "standing your ground" it's just the obvious default response.

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There’s a few comments like this, but what would rolling over look like and / or why would a country do that?

Look no further than Colombia, who was likewise threatened with tariffs by Trump if they refused to accept our deportees. They caved and accepted them after initially refusing them.

Now, in that case, I'm sure some people in the Colombian government likely did the math and determined that it would be cheaper to just accept the few hundred people Trump deported than to have the tariffs damage their economy by depressing the demand for exports like coffee.

The entirely expected and appropriate response is to apply retaliatory tariffs. This doesn’t take bravery and isn’t “standing your ground” it’s just the obvious default response.

It is if the tariffs were meant to stand on their own merit. Trump has only historically used tariffs as a threat to get what he wants. The one time he implemented targeted tariffs on China in his first term, it led to him having to bail out farmers with the money that was collected from the tariff revenue as a result of the retaliatory tariffs on agriculture exports. You would think he would have learned his lesson about using tariffs as a bluff and then following through anyway when it's called, but then again, we are talking about Trump here. You don't get to bankrupt a casino and still claim to have a shred of business acumen.

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Great, you’re admitting what I said. It’s not available to everyone. Thanks, we’re done here.

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Yeah ok. Good points about Colombia. I think that's quite different given the trade surplus for them - they would sell a lot more coffee to the US than goods they import surely.

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Thank you for the respectful explanation even though you have other opinions.

I admit that the text is lacking in a detailed explanation. This comment was kind of a throwaway comment at the time, but there are certain aspects of these tariff actions that point to a reality.

Economists believe that these actions will have a detrimental effect on the US economy (All three North American Economies).
The administration is shutting down government services.
These services are necessary.
(This is where a possible "theory" may come in) The private sector will say they have come to "save" us and "bail out" these failing services. For example, educational institutions. Will they become privately run by Google ED, High School by Meta or some other company? Yes, This is definitely speculation but also not that far out to be tinfoil hat level.

We should recognize the importance of accessible public education because...if a fucking nutsack, dipshit can't read well enough to understand a throw away, 10 year old+ meme then we are already fucked.

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Canada 'will stand up to a bully', says Mark Carney