Canada 'will stand up to a bully', says Mark Carney

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Troop morale would be incredibly low, too. I would be pissed if I somehow got drafted to invade Canada. It’d be like something out of a cartoon.

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Plus, it’d suck for at least four months a year

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Make US thirteen colonies again?

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The EU as a structure is such that some piss drops like Orban can stall its reaction to events long enough to make it useless.

But! A new no-bullshit world confederation would be nice. With a combined military, of course.

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Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc are vastly different to the US itself in culture and language and everything.

A lot of misfortune was due to that.

Canada isn't.

Anyway, I don't think your idea of power balance here is right. Canada's defense is basically a module of US defense.

Things about blending in and such, in our age of street cameras and computing power far more than needed, are just childish.

US absolutely can anschluss Canada, the question is why, because strategically it already gets from it everything it would provide as a state.

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economy has to collapse

This may have unexpected consequences.

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If y'all want to burn the white house down again, I'll bring marshmallows for us to roast on the flames.

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I'd rather they burn down Mar-a-lago. The White House is a nice historic building.

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Only an American would think that Canada is the same as the US. Because Americans are completely ignorant of Canada, in the same way they're ignorant of the other places they tried (and failed) to conquer. Which is exactly why it'll go the same way... only worse because there's a lot of targets within drone range of Canada.

We seem similar but that's to our advantage. There's a very long border that Canadians can cross and you'd have to admit, Canadians would blend in well with the US population. While you're looking at troop counts and number of planes and think it'll be easy, we're over here thinking about how easy it would be for us to fight a guerilla war on US soil. It's been a long time since the US fought a war on your own soil and I'm seeing a lot of soft targets.

Also remember this would be the US betraying an ally. An ally that was just in a war fighting alongside the US for decades. Then a few years after that the US betrays it's ally for what? Money? When the US is already the wealthiest country in the world? Never in human history has a country been so dishonorable. What do you think the US troop morale would be when ordered to do something so despicable? To fight against an ally to make some wealthy oligarchs even more wealthy? Canada would get a lot of help even from within the US if something like this were to happen. There would be a significant fifth column, to the point where the US might collapse into civil war.

If the US were to attempt invading Canada, it would be the end of the US.

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It would literally be asked to potentially die for the cause of betraying an ally for money. And not money for you, money for already extremely wealthy oligarchs.

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Like Russia and Ukraine, basically... But way more direct and overt.

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The whole idea is ludicrous. There are so many things that would make it utterly impossible.

The border. Ignore everything else, just think about the border. The US/Canada border is the longest land border on the planet. It's utterly impossible to defend that border.
Utter lack of support for the war. Even the Vietnam War enjoyed a decent amount of popular support for the first few years. Imagine starting a war that more than 50% of the population opposed right off the bat.
Conflict on US soil for the first time since the Civil War. Sure, the US participated in WWI and WWII, and they were the main military force in the Korean, Vietnam, and Gulf wars. Those were all wars that happened overseas somewhere. A few thousand people died on Sept. 11th and the whole country freaked out for decades. The US psyche isn't ready for a war on US soil.

Militarily, Canada couldn't stand up to the US at all. But, the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland show what guerilla tactics can achieve, especially when it's almost impossible to distinguish the "bad guys" from the "good guys". And, that's without even talking about all the Americans who would take the opportunity to turn against their own fascist government.

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But, they don't like Freeland either. And Jagmeet Singh has proven to be pretty useless.

It's still really likely that the conservatives would win in a landslide. But, at least now their rhetoric has to switch from copying the US to opposing the US.

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"Matching the US tariffs dollar for dollar" is such a stupid policy.

A better policy would be stopping flows of Canadian dollars to the US. Declare that US patents are no longer valid in Canada. Pass a law requiring that Apple and Google allow competing app stores on their phones with no strings attached. Remove any penalty from jailbreaking phones and allow anybody who wants to sell jailbreaking kits. Declare a universal right to repair in Canada, so that Canadian farmers don't have to pay John Deere if they want to repair their tractors. Say that all copyrights belonging to the Hollywood copyright cartel are no longer recognized, and let people trade their music, tv and movies freely.

Nobody's going to be brave enough to do that. But, really, the US declaring a 25% across-the-board tariff on Canada is basically an economic nuke. Don't respond with a measured and exactly equal economic war response. Canada can't win by fighting by those rules.

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Stop! You are making too much sense!

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I wanna see people partying like it's 1812

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I think you underestimate how savagely Canadian resistance would treat invading Americans. Canadians are also incredibly patriotic. Terrorism and brutality would be the best defense in a war that was already unpopular and everyone knows it.

Additionally, they are used to environmental hardships the average American grunt isnt prepared for. The nation is massive and full of inhospitable wilderness to melt into.

It would be a long, brutal, drawn out guerilla war. Yes, the US would steamroll the Canadian military. After that it would be hell for those on the ground.

Its all fantasy anyway because the US has no reason to actually invade Canada. Trump just says it to rile people up and pundits are just licking his asshole when they agree.

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You are not wrong in some of theses but they would requiere a legal framework that does not exist today to be created in a hurry.

Tarrifs are literally easier so they are the first step and it does not mean they would be the last

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When your main identity is nationalism it just doesn’t make sense to work together with any foreign leader.

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I don’t actually think the US would survive such a war. The trouble is that many states would defect. Can you imagine CA footing the bill for an invasion of Canada? Already a trade war is extremely dangerous. How easy would it be for, say NY, to sabotage the border controls?

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Canada 'will stand up to a bully', says Mark Carney