Canada 'will stand up to a bully', says Mark Carney

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But, they don't like Freeland either. And Jagmeet Singh has proven to be pretty useless.

It's still really likely that the conservatives would win in a landslide. But, at least now their rhetoric has to switch from copying the US to opposing the US.

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"Matching the US tariffs dollar for dollar" is such a stupid policy.

A better policy would be stopping flows of Canadian dollars to the US. Declare that US patents are no longer valid in Canada. Pass a law requiring that Apple and Google allow competing app stores on their phones with no strings attached. Remove any penalty from jailbreaking phones and allow anybody who wants to sell jailbreaking kits. Declare a universal right to repair in Canada, so that Canadian farmers don't have to pay John Deere if they want to repair their tractors. Say that all copyrights belonging to the Hollywood copyright cartel are no longer recognized, and let people trade their music, tv and movies freely.

Nobody's going to be brave enough to do that. But, really, the US declaring a 25% across-the-board tariff on Canada is basically an economic nuke. Don't respond with a measured and exactly equal economic war response. Canada can't win by fighting by those rules.

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Stop! You are making too much sense!

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I wanna see people partying like it's 1812

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I think you underestimate how savagely Canadian resistance would treat invading Americans. Canadians are also incredibly patriotic. Terrorism and brutality would be the best defense in a war that was already unpopular and everyone knows it.

Additionally, they are used to environmental hardships the average American grunt isnt prepared for. The nation is massive and full of inhospitable wilderness to melt into.

It would be a long, brutal, drawn out guerilla war. Yes, the US would steamroll the Canadian military. After that it would be hell for those on the ground.

Its all fantasy anyway because the US has no reason to actually invade Canada. Trump just says it to rile people up and pundits are just licking his asshole when they agree.

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You are not wrong in some of theses but they would requiere a legal framework that does not exist today to be created in a hurry.

Tarrifs are literally easier so they are the first step and it does not mean they would be the last

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When your main identity is nationalism it just doesn’t make sense to work together with any foreign leader.

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I don’t actually think the US would survive such a war. The trouble is that many states would defect. Can you imagine CA footing the bill for an invasion of Canada? Already a trade war is extremely dangerous. How easy would it be for, say NY, to sabotage the border controls?

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Yeah it would be a both a reason and an opportunity for states to secede.

There's a significant probability of that happening anyway... how long will progressive (and wealthy) states subsidize backwards and ignorant states? The whole reason why Trump is in power is because there are no consequences for significant parts of the US to be backwards thinking. If it were all separate countries the red states (red countries?) would have to become a little more progressive or they'd be living in poverty. As it is now, states like California and NYC are forced to subsidize the red states no matter how backwards they get and the red states get to force their backwards values onto the progressive states.

This is not sustainable long term. If this situation persists, it's the end of the USA. If Trump pushes things too far it only accelerates the timetable. Right now the allies of the US don't want this to happen. But those countries are no longer allies of the US and start working in the other direction then it's all over for the USA.

The US can turn things around, but there needs significant changes to reverse it's downward spiral.

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Bury him. The entire world will thank you.

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Would any allies be dragged in to support Canada? Could it escalate?

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Isn't that most wars for the last 50 years though to be honest?

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I'll throw myself off of a bridge.

But couldn't y'all set a better example by throwing anyone involved with private insurance off that bridge?

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Right? Like "Bro they've got maple syrup, healthcare, and poutine. If you think I'm pointing a rifle at them instead of marching up there with a gift basket and immigration papers, you gotta be out of your mind!" Lol

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There wouldn't really be any formal arrangement, because I imagine the Canadian government would fall within days. Ottawa is only a 2 hour drive from the US border, most of the Canadian population lives right next to the border. But, you could easily see various countries covertly supplying resistance cells with weapons. Most of Western Europe wouldn't do it openly because they're too vulnerable to the US. But, maybe covertly. China and Russia would definitely try to help Canadian resistance, just to destabilize the US.

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and you'd have to admit, Canadians would blend in well with the US population.

I'm already laughing at the propaganda posters I'm imagining:

"Did YOUR neighbor just say 'oot', 'sorry', or 'zed'? REPORT THEM TO YOUR NEAREST PATRIOTISM ASSURANCE OFFICER TODAY."

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now there's two of them

"This is getting out of hand!"

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Doesn't the Tariffs Basically invalidate make the old trade agreements, making them worthless so now the other countries can do whatever they want?

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And Jagmeet Singh has proven to be pretty useless.

Other than getting us pharmacare and dental added to our health care, sure.

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Genuine curiosity, why do you call yourself an “expat” instead of “immigrant”? Is there a difference?

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