Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK
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The thing is, UK has had age restrictions for years on its mobile platforms. So if you want to look at porn on your phone, you have to unlock it on your subscription. And to do this, they use youre credit card. The thing that they already have. Its easy and swift. And more to the point, only one company has your data. As it stands now, you are supposed to give your personal details to every single company in the world.
Over the past 20 years, how many massive hacks have we seen that leak email addresses and passwords? Are how about all those woman that get their iclouds hacked and their nude photos uploaded? I can think of at least 10 instances in the past 10 years. And now its going to be all of our driving licences, passports, other photo IDs? And the law also requires that they scan ALL private messages. Thats end to end encryption fucked. And god forbid your girlfriend calls you "Daddy" in a sext, you get the cops knocking on your door treating you like Jimmy Saville.
The shit is insane, and people arent anywhere near outraged enough. Its coming to Europe next, if reports are to be believed. So you lot should ALL start kicking up fuck about it now.
My point is you shouldn't present any id to a random site, it should exists a government app that does it for you.
Same as the passport you show at the border and it should not even show name or picture, is should just say if you are over 18 or not.
People shouldn't be in the need to show a credit card to watch porn.
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I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them
Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.
It's convenient.
If you don't like Spotify's new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.
wrote last edited by [email protected]woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let's sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history
obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it's common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that's the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.
If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it's literally more profitable for a musician to die than it is to release a certain number of future albums. I'm going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love
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It's super trustworthy bro I swear
Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?
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woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let's sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history
obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it's common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that's the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.
If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it's literally more profitable for a musician to die than it is to release a certain number of future albums. I'm going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?
Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.
woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn
Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.
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I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.
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Why mp3?
Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.
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It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?
Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.
woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn
Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.
wrote last edited by [email protected]it really isn't though. I don't really know where you live or how your local economy is organized but where I'm at people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn't make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations since we are literally a resource that's being exploited in real time for far much more than whatever artists would lose if we all stole.
.sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too.
here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another. but I hope you continue to have the life where you can engage with your economy in such a good intentioned way. I miss back when I felt I could do that too.
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That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.
When I was a kid there weren't all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.
So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback
Shit, those sites are a core memory for me. sexypasswords was my goto and the thrill of finding a working one. Ah good times.
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An algorithm for them:
set rand [clock microseconds] set len [mpc_pl_len] set to [expr {$rand%$len}] mpc_pl_jmp $tompc, is that shuffling media player cassic with the system clock? isn't that what shuffle already does ?
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Shit, those sites are a core memory for me. sexypasswords was my goto and the thrill of finding a working one. Ah good times.
Yeah I used iseekpasswords my older cousin told me about it
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mpc, is that shuffling media player cassic with the system clock? isn't that what shuffle already does ?
mpcas inmpdCLI client, wherempc_pl_lenandmpc_pl_jmpprocedures are not listed, but just call it with some other Unix commands to get playlist length and jump to a playlist position. -
I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.
Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.
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fair point but given the direction US and UK are headed, something legal you do online can be illegal in a couple years with a face attached to that activity. What you mention is also bad (your face being in a face recognition database) but not as bad as that being attached to tons of behavioural data collected about you.
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Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.
It's really interesting when you think about that.
In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.
Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.
I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.
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what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?
"oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"
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Ah the laziness to not even set up an account that needs it. I didn't consider that. Was more thinking of current users meeting the resistance.
I tend to agree with you in that most people are too addicted to the convenience. But yeah, Balaquina does make a good point. After all, a commonly cited reason as for why the Fediverse won't rival mainstream sites is that making an account is more complex. Even then, it's just choosing an instance, which isn't that hard, it's just more complicated in comparison to, say, Reddit or Twitter. So following the same logic, it very well could backfire if Spotify raises the barrier of entry (or barrier of continuous entry, for those who already have accounts that they will have to verify).
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Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.
How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
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How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
wrote last edited by [email protected]He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)
Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers
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How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?
A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region).
And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.Plus, you won't be at risk of spending money you don't have, and it doesn't negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.
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He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)
Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers
I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself
