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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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  • F [email protected]

    It's super trustworthy bro I swear

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    Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?

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    • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

      woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let's sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history

      obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it's common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that's the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.

      If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it's literally more profitable for a musician to die than it is to release a certain number of future albums. I'm going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love

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      It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?

      Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.

      woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn

      Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.

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        I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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        • F [email protected]

          Why mp3?

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          Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.

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          • alaknar@sopuli.xyzA [email protected]

            It's still giving them SOMETHING, isn't it?

            Of course I'd prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that's not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.

            woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn

            Then stop saying stupid shit like "they just cannot live without an algorithm" when talking about people who use streaming services.

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            it really isn't though. I don't really know where you live or how your local economy is organized but where I'm at people in my tax bracket are extracted for every ounce of raw money we can generate, both now but even speculatively in the future. it really doesn't make sense to consider theft as a taboo against corporations since we are literally a resource that's being exploited in real time for far much more than whatever artists would lose if we all stole.

            .sopuli is a Finnish board right? my understanding is that you guys have way stronger social ethics and consumer protection, so yeah. in your world I probably would sign up for that Napster subscription again. or even better, a service actually from Finland. Bandcamp is good too.

            here, though in the present we have far worse things to worry about than theft. being tricked into defending the feelings of billionaires is a big one. letting corporations curate our education and media is another. but I hope you continue to have the life where you can engage with your economy in such a good intentioned way. I miss back when I felt I could do that too.

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            • B [email protected]

              That a porn ban does not work and people will find a way around it.

              When I was a kid there weren't all this free porn sites and most of them were paid.

              So you would go to some shady site where people shared passwords. This might make a comeback

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              Shit, those sites are a core memory for me. sexypasswords was my goto and the thrill of finding a working one. Ah good times.

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                An algorithm for them:

                set rand [clock microseconds]
                set len [mpc_pl_len]
                set to [expr {$rand%$len}]
                mpc_pl_jmp $to
                
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                mpc, is that shuffling media player cassic with the system clock? isn't that what shuffle already does ?

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                  Shit, those sites are a core memory for me. sexypasswords was my goto and the thrill of finding a working one. Ah good times.

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                  Yeah I used iseekpasswords my older cousin told me about it

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                    mpc, is that shuffling media player cassic with the system clock? isn't that what shuffle already does ?

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                    mpc as in mpd CLI client, where mpc_pl_len and mpc_pl_jmp procedures are not listed, but just call it with some other Unix commands to get playlist length and jump to a playlist position.

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                      I don't mind giving my date of birth to all the services I already pay for with credit card but face scanning? That's just creepy. Fuck off.

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                      Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.

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                        fair point but given the direction US and UK are headed, something legal you do online can be illegal in a couple years with a face attached to that activity. What you mention is also bad (your face being in a face recognition database) but not as bad as that being attached to tons of behavioural data collected about you.

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                          Usually when someone still use mp3s it's for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it's not common at all.

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                          It's really interesting when you think about that.

                          In the video world, we've had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you'll get a file to play on any device in particular.

                          Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

                          I guess there just hasn't been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is "good enough" and so it endures.

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                            what's even the point of age gating "explicit" music?

                            "oh no! "Speak To Me" by Pink Floyd has the fuck word in it! can't let my kids hear it!"

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                              Ah the laziness to not even set up an account that needs it. I didn't consider that. Was more thinking of current users meeting the resistance.

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                              I tend to agree with you in that most people are too addicted to the convenience. But yeah, Balaquina does make a good point. After all, a commonly cited reason as for why the Fediverse won't rival mainstream sites is that making an account is more complex. Even then, it's just choosing an instance, which isn't that hard, it's just more complicated in comparison to, say, Reddit or Twitter. So following the same logic, it very well could backfire if Spotify raises the barrier of entry (or barrier of continuous entry, for those who already have accounts that they will have to verify).

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                                Even using a credit card for something like Spotify is already giving out more information than is needed.

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                                How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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                                  How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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                                  He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)

                                  Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers

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                                    How do you suggest people pay for Spotify?

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                                    A normal modern bank card (with 2FA) through a payment provider which obfuscates everything besides the name on your bank account and your bank account number (this will also share the country of your bank if you are in a SEPA region).
                                    And since people younger than 18 can use that system, they cannot use that for verification.

                                    Plus, you won't be at risk of spending money you don't have, and it doesn't negatively impact your credit score like even having a credit card does in some countries.

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                                      He's saying if you have a credit card to pay there's no need to verify (I think)

                                      Edit: nah I'm wrong, cheers

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                                      I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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                                        I mean, the Spotify CEO invests in AI weaponry being used to murder kids in Gaza so the morally correct thing to do would be to leave Spotify over that.

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                                          I just hate credit cards since they are like the worst payment method unless you want to dig a financial hole for yourself

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                                          Only if you’re bad with money. Nothing wrong with credit cards themselves, and most of them these days are credit/debit cards.

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