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Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

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    While I want to agree. I feel like normal people are still not gonna give a shit.

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    People underestimate that most "regular" people are a product and exist for something other than humanity.

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      This is it. Theyve been going after encrypted messaging apps for a long time, ig they realized theyre not getting anywhere and figured to just hit it head on.

      The internet has always circumvented this kind of shit, just look at TPB. The ones who are getting really beaten up by this is the older generations and the ones lacking technical know-how.

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      Yep. โ€œThe Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.โ€

      LOL, wrong on that last point! Gen X and Millennials are generally hot shit on tech. It's the young folks who don't have a clue if something doesn't "just work". Present company excluded of course. ๐Ÿ™‚

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        I'm convinced sex is used as a leveraging tool to control society.

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        ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿš€๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿš€

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        • D [email protected]

          If something's finally going to force the industry to curb its bullshit, this might just be it. Once you annoy normal people, it's all over. They seriously underestimate how many people would just stop using Spotify, or Youtube, or whatever other platform it is

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          It would have to get pretty bad before people would be willing to forgo convenience.

          That stuff is a nasty drug, very addictive and people will sell everything they got to keep it. They'd rather pay and arm and a leg instead of learning a little technology so they could help themselves.

          People will slave themselves to the company that lets them be the most ignorant person possible but still enjoy the fun of technology.

          Could you imagine if all mobile devices stopped using face recognition to unlock phones? I'd be willing to bet that a big chunk of people wouldn't be able to use them at all. I'm surprised that google and apple haven't started charging extra for that.

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            ngl, Spotify has become hot ass these days

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            My favorite part is when the AI DJ plays some dumb song it's previously served up repeatedly, and then tells me how much I like it because I listen to it so often. I'd never choose to listen to it on my own, and the only reason I hear it is because Spotify keeps cramming it down my throat.

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              Back to Piracy! โœŠ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

              Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?

              Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again ๐Ÿ˜ฅ Something lowercase, like a verb... "normalize" or some such. Navidrome! Thanks @[email protected]

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              • P [email protected]

                While I want to agree. I feel like normal people are still not gonna give a shit.

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                They won't give a shit, but they're also lazy and won't bother setting up an account that requires ID and photo verification. Too much work. Maybe we'll even see somewhat of a recurrence of brick and mortar stores that sells music, movies, porn, etc.

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                  ah from shady porn sites, like spotify and wikipedia. definitely protect kids from porn there. /s

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                  So I feel like I'm now hearing more successful pushes for censorship through this stuff.

                  Just last week I learned how Texas has a bill that makes it so if anyone ever invested in green technology that they wouldn't be allowed

                  https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/24/texas-boycott-companies-fossil-fuels/

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                    Who taught you sex is a drug? As long as words mean their definitions, it's categorically not. Plus it's probably kinda harmful to pile on the stigma already surrounding sex by conflating it with drugs and all the stigma that comes with that.

                    Hopefully I'm wrong, but it's kinda giving a nofap pseudoscience red flag to me.

                    Parents definitely should be teaching their kids about this stuff at the appropriate time, but they should stick to the facts.

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                    First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now theyโ€™re trying to take my rock and roll

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                      They dont care about music, they want to make sure you are not listening to podcast they dont like.

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                        First they came for the sex, then they came after the drugs. Now theyโ€™re trying to take my rock and roll

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                        Did you know that rock and roll is actually a plate of spaghetti?

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                        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                          We have to protect wikipedia

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                          Here's one way to help: https://kiwix.org/en/about-us/#our-story

                          Download Wikipedia to your own device. If it's ever blocked or taken down you still have access and can help share information with others.

                          You can download different versions (e.g. without images) and different languages based on your needs.

                          There's other resources available via kiwix as well but I've not really explored them to be honest

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                            In Sweden pretty much anybody has Bank Id, an app which is connected to a bank account and which can function as a valid identification.

                            App belongs a private company, but it's still trustworthy and everybody can sign government docs with that.

                            This is how you should do age verification, through a third party app, not like any site will get your id/picture to just end in their DBs ready to be stolen.

                            Every government should create an app for the online id, I don't get why this seems so hard to achieve.

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                            Credit cards should roughly do the same, but both of those aren't "great" for privacy and really exists to make profiles of adults while pretending to negate the need for parents to parent (the only real way to reduce/prevent harms of kids witnessing age inappropriate media). Your ability to do financial transactions shouldn't be tied to your speech or content you view.

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                              While I want to agree. I feel like normal people are still not gonna give a shit.

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                              Every company has learned that any friction to using your site is a bleed of customers. There are a lot of people who will just not use your site if it requires a lengthy validation process. If there was some kind of identity system that sites would integrate with like login.gov, then people would ignore this, but I don't think the UK has such a thing that every site can use, so a lot of people will not use the site and over time fall to piracy or illegitimate sites.

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                                They won't give a shit, but they're also lazy and won't bother setting up an account that requires ID and photo verification. Too much work. Maybe we'll even see somewhat of a recurrence of brick and mortar stores that sells music, movies, porn, etc.

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                                Ah the laziness to not even set up an account that needs it. I didn't consider that. Was more thinking of current users meeting the resistance.

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                                  I need a cheap mp3 player

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                                  • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

                                    Back to Piracy! โœŠ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

                                    Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?

                                    Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again ๐Ÿ˜ฅ Something lowercase, like a verb... "normalize" or some such. Navidrome! Thanks @[email protected]

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                                    Navidrome maybe?
                                    But I use jellyfin + symfonium myself. All my music is either bandcamp or used CDs. Started collecting music late last year and my entire collection is legally sourced now. No piracy required. Hardest part was starting very small and building the collection over time.

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                                      Every company has learned that any friction to using your site is a bleed of customers. There are a lot of people who will just not use your site if it requires a lengthy validation process. If there was some kind of identity system that sites would integrate with like login.gov, then people would ignore this, but I don't think the UK has such a thing that every site can use, so a lot of people will not use the site and over time fall to piracy or illegitimate sites.

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                                      Imagine if Spotify just opened the camera on your phone once a month when you first open the app that day. Just for like a split second.
                                      Theoretically it would be legal, for age verification. ๐Ÿคฎ

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                                        Back to Piracy! โœŠ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

                                        Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?

                                        Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again ๐Ÿ˜ฅ Something lowercase, like a verb... "normalize" or some such. Navidrome! Thanks @[email protected]

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                                        Harmonize?

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                                          Age verification is a great success I see. I feel so much safer now with this shit in place so kids can't watch porn...

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                                          It has absolutely nothing to do with kids watching porn.

                                          Of course.

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