what’s the difference between a narcissistic person and just an asshole?
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Depression
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There's gotta be a vin diagram for this one
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Narcissism, like all personality disorders, is a trauma response and also not indicative of someone's moral character as you can get help and learn not to act on your worst inclinations.
Asshole is a behavior.
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Good thing is BPD is treatable with DBT. The therapy teaches them how to balance the rapidly shifting emotions, and how to break the feeling, judgement,action chain that drives their behaviours.
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Functionally, not much I can see , the former's slur for people with NPD (or whom person saying it thinks has NPD)
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it’s a slur? let me change the title then
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That's definitely not true. Narcissism is a personality disorder like any other. If it's worked on and treated it can be fine.
There are no mental disorders that inherently make someone a bad person.
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️ so what differentiates some one with (NPD|just some asshole) is one obviously has disability while the other dœsn't (necessarily)NPD ≠ asshole disorder . More complex than that , and (assholish|selfcentered)ness isn't innate trait some peops have
Not gꝏd with explaining , srry
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I am not a narcissist. I don't think I'm better or more important than anyone else. I don't think I'm the center of the universe.
I am however, an asshole. Knowing you are not the best or smartest, doesn't mean you can't be arrogant and insufferable.
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ohh, thanks!
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Sam Vikins... "Malignant self love" explains everything. Or check out his yt.
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That's a fair and valid point
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Treatable is an optimistic way to describe it. My therapist friend says it's virtually like starting from scratch with every session she does with a borderline, they're super resistant to treatment and have very poor insight.
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I spend a lot of time mulling this over, since my therapist thinks that both my SO and MIL have malignant narcissism.
What I can say about both of them is that they really find doing emotionally disruptive things absolutely vital to their lives. MIL likes to pit her kids against each other so she can watch them fight, and she smiles like a vampire who just had a delicious blood feast when she sees it. Her only grandchild develops an eating disorder? Nothing will do but to run out and buy her some size XXL pyjamas to make her feel worse. Everything for her is a provocation and meant to trigger a negative reaction, because that's what she gets off on. It's beyond being an asshole, it's pathological and emotionally disturbing.
My SO, one of the biggest examples is the gifts he buys me. They're usually highly thoughtful and unique, but they're also really for him (it's several times been a piece of art), and part of it is so he can take pictures of them for Instagram and display his fine taste in things to everyone. If I tried to move out and take those things with me, he'd probably break my arm. Nothing is really a gift with him, it's just a way for him to get himself something he can show off with. Or he'll spend a long time taking pictures of things we've bought on trips just to show what interesting and unique tastes he has and how therefore he's better than anyone else. It's really tone deaf and it really reflects how he doesn't actually enjoy anything, but rather what doing something or buying something will help to elevate his status in his mind. It's tiresome and tone deaf. It isn't that I don't like the gifts, but the whole point is that they're not really gifts at all, and my birthday or whatever is just an excuse to acquire something that makes him feel important.
I think an asshole would just not be bothered with anything so deliberately manipulative, but just be really careless with your feelings and react badly when they get angry. I think that's the difference is the deep rooted pathological nature of it.
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Depends on the person, but yeah some therapists give up. The patient has to be willing to monitor themselves and mark their DBT skills card daily. If they put in no effort they get no result.
