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Cloudflare announces AI Labyrinth, which uses AI-generated content to confuse and waste the resources of AI Crawlers and bots that ignore “no crawl” directives.

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  • H [email protected]

    My dude, they'll literally sell services to both sides of the market.

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      The article says it's not poisoning the AI data, only providing valid facts. The scraper still gets content, just not the content it was aiming for.

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      if you're dumb enough to trust a large language model because someone told you "iTs Ai!" no amount of facts will be of great utility to you.

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        On on hand, yes. On the other...imagine frustration of management of companies making and selling AI services. This is such a sweet thing to imagine.

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        I just want to keep using uncensored AI that answers my questions. Why is this a good thing?

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          You have Thirteen hours in which to solve this labyrinth before your baby AI becomes one of us, forever.

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            Burning 29 acres of rainforest a day to do nothing

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              cool, but where do you get them? you can't, right? because they were stupid?

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              You can still buy new ones. Take a nap.

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                Considering how many false positives Cloudflare serves i see nothing but misery coming from this.

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                  Why do I have the feeling that I will end up in that nightmare with my privacy focused and ad-free Browser setup. I already end up in captcha hell too often because of it.

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                  Of course it will. Cloudflare has already ruined the web and it's just another step further.

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                    this is some fucking stupid situation, we somewhat got a faster internet and these bots messing each other are hugging the bandwidth.

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                    Lol website traffic accounts for like 1% of bandwidth budget. 1 netflix movie is like 20k web pages.

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                      Cloudflare kind of real for this. I love it.

                      It makes perfect sense for them as a business, infinite automated traffic equals infinite costs and lower server stability, but at the same time how often do giant tech companies do things that make sense these days?

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                      I'm sorry how does it make sense?

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                        Considering how many false positives Cloudflare serves i see nothing but misery coming from this.

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                        In terms of Lemmy instances, if your instance is behind cloudflare and you turn on AI protection, federation breaks. So their tools are not very helpful for fighting the AI scraping.

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                          You can still buy new ones. Take a nap.

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                          somehow I get the impression all this defense of tomogatchis is not about tomogatchis.

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                            I just want to keep using uncensored AI that answers my questions. Why is this a good thing?

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                            Because it's not AI, it's LLMs, and all LLMs do is guess what word most likely comes next in a sentence. That's why they are terrible at answering questions and do things like suggest adding glue to the cheese on your pizza because somewhere in the training data some idiot said that.

                            The training data for LLMs come from the internet, and the internet is full of idiots.

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                              I just want to keep using uncensored AI that answers my questions. Why is this a good thing?

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                              Because it only harms bots that ignore the "no crawl" directive, so your AI remains uncensored.

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                                Thanks, I don't really care for generalizing instances and didn't really have a choice when I made my account.

                                But also your definition is impossibly broad as you well and I'm pretty sure not the general consensus. The video doesn't define it as such either.

                                For one thing, by your definition we can have absolutely no meaningful human relationships. I can explain this more later when I have time if you don't see what I mean

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                                My explanation of authority wasn't meant as a definition but rather a brief summarisation of a complex concept, Andrew does a better job actually explaining it. Like pointing out that Authority is confused with a lot of different concepts like respect or influence. Which I'm starting to suspect is happening here. meaningful human relationships are based on mutual respect. This is not authority as it is voluntary, reciprocated and revoked as soon as the other party steps over the line. This is what I believe is the basis of society and what we need to return to in order to live a truly free life. In modern society in most interactions respect has been replaced with authority. People in positions of power even use them synonymously.

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                                  Surprised at the level of negativity here. Having had my sites repeatedly DDOSed offline by Claudebot and others scraping the same damned thing over and over again, thousands of times a second, I welcome any measures to help.

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                                    "I used the AI to destroy the AI"

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                                      Because it's not AI, it's LLMs, and all LLMs do is guess what word most likely comes next in a sentence. That's why they are terrible at answering questions and do things like suggest adding glue to the cheese on your pizza because somewhere in the training data some idiot said that.

                                      The training data for LLMs come from the internet, and the internet is full of idiots.

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                                      LLM is a subset of AI

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                                        Surprised at the level of negativity here. Having had my sites repeatedly DDOSed offline by Claudebot and others scraping the same damned thing over and over again, thousands of times a second, I welcome any measures to help.

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                                        I think the negativity is around the unfortunate fact that solutions like this shouldn't be necessary.

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                                          "I used the AI to destroy the AI"

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                                          We had to kill the internet, to save the internet.

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