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Cloudflare announces AI Labyrinth, which uses AI-generated content to confuse and waste the resources of AI Crawlers and bots that ignore “no crawl” directives.

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  • F [email protected]

    And consumed the power output of a medium country to do it.

    Yeah, great job! 👍

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    We truly are getting dumber as a species. We're facing climate change but running some of the most power hungry processers in the world to spit out cooking recipes and homework answers for millions of people.

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      Law enforcement doesn't convict anyone, that's a judge's job. If a LEO falsely arrests you, you can sue them, and it should be pretty open-and-shut if it's due to AI hallucination. Enough of that and LEO will stop it.

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      More likely they will remove your ability to sue them if you are talking about the usa and many other countries

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        I have no idea why the makers of LLM crawlers think it's a good idea to ignore bot rules. The rules are there for a reason and the reasons are often more complex than "well, we just don't want you to do that". They're usually more like "why would you even do that?"

        Ultimately you have to trust what the site owners say. The reason why, say, your favourite search engine returns the relevant Wikipedia pages and not bazillion random old page revisions from ages ago is that Wikipedia said "please crawl the most recent versions using canonical page names, and do not follow the links to the technical pages (including history)". Again: Why would anyone index those?

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        Because you are coming from the perspective of a reasonable person

        These people are billionaires who expect to get everything for free. Rules are for the plebs, just take it already

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          Imagine how much power is wasted on this unfortunate necessity.

          Now imagine how much power will be wasted circumventing it.

          Fucking clown world we live in

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          [email protected]

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          • F [email protected]

            Autocracy is 100% guaranteed in the USA since November, Schumer never had any choice on the matter. Whether or not Congress went into recess Trump would be acting like a God King. The only people who can do anything about it? Congress, who in this hypothetical wouldn't be able to because of the recess and in our actual reality aren't able to because more than half of them are traitors.

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            We'll never know what happened because the senate couldn't even filibuster it for a day to try to force a negotiation or a shutdown. There was no reason for 10 senators to vote yes on the CR.

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              We'll never know what happened because the senate couldn't even filibuster it for a day to try to force a negotiation or a shutdown. There was no reason for 10 senators to vote yes on the CR.

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              I don't like that 10 dnc senators voted yes, but I absolutely place 100% of the blame on the GOP.

              Reminder that failure to pass a resolution by the 14th, within 4 days of its introduction on the 10th, would automatically trigger government shutdown and recess of congress, giving Trump even more authority to discontinue payments to government programs and offices. It was made law on the 15th of March. Republicans left no room for negotiation.

              Any Democrat is better than Any Republican.

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                People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                  People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                  Maybe it will learn discretion and what sarcasm are instead of being a front loaded google search of 90% ads and 10% forums. It has no way of knowing if what it’s copy pasting is full of shit.

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                    Should have called it "Black ICE".

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                      People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                      I find this amusing, had a conversation with an older relative who asked about AI because I am "the computer guy" he knows. Explained basically how I understand LLMs to operate, that they are pattern matching to guess what the next token should be based on a statistical probability. Explained that they sometimes hallucinate, or go of on wild tangents due to this and that they can be really good at aping and regurgitating things but there is no understanding simply respinning fragments to try to generate a response that pleases the asker.

                      He observed, "oh we are creating computer religions, just without the practical aspects of having to operate in the mundane world that have to exist before a real religion can get started. That's good, religions that have become untethered from day to day practical life have never caused problems for anyone."

                      Which I found scarily insightful.

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                        I'm glad we're burning the forests even faster in the name of identity politics.

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                        Do you identify as retarded?

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                          People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                          i mean this is just designed to thwart ai bots that refuse to follow robots.txt rules of people who specifically blocked them.

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                            Should have called it "Black ICE".

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                            Definitely falls under the category of a Trap ICE card.

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                              People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                              This will only make models of bad actors who don't follow the rules worse quality.
                              You want to sell a good quality AI model trained on real content instead of other misleading AI output? Just follow the rules 😉

                              Doesn't sound too bad to me.

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                                That's just BattleBots with a different name.

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                                No, it is far less environmentally friendly than rc bots made of metal, plastic, and electronics full of nasty little things like batteries blasting, sawing, burning and smashing one another to pieces.

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                                  People complain about AI possibly being unreliable, then actively root for things that are designed to make them unreliable.

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                                  Here's the key distinction:

                                  This only makes AI models unreliable if they ignore "don't scrape my site" requests. If they respect the requests of the sites they're profiting from using the data from, then there's no issue.

                                  People want AI models to not be unreliable, but they also want them to operate with integrity in the first place, and not profit from people's work who explicitly opt-out their work from training.

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                                    I find this amusing, had a conversation with an older relative who asked about AI because I am "the computer guy" he knows. Explained basically how I understand LLMs to operate, that they are pattern matching to guess what the next token should be based on a statistical probability. Explained that they sometimes hallucinate, or go of on wild tangents due to this and that they can be really good at aping and regurgitating things but there is no understanding simply respinning fragments to try to generate a response that pleases the asker.

                                    He observed, "oh we are creating computer religions, just without the practical aspects of having to operate in the mundane world that have to exist before a real religion can get started. That's good, religions that have become untethered from day to day practical life have never caused problems for anyone."

                                    Which I found scarily insightful.

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                                    Oh good.

                                    now I can add digital jihad by hallucinating AI to the list of my existential terrors.

                                    Thank your relative for me.

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                                    • archrecord@lemm.eeA [email protected]

                                      Here's the key distinction:

                                      This only makes AI models unreliable if they ignore "don't scrape my site" requests. If they respect the requests of the sites they're profiting from using the data from, then there's no issue.

                                      People want AI models to not be unreliable, but they also want them to operate with integrity in the first place, and not profit from people's work who explicitly opt-out their work from training.

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                                      I'm a person.

                                      I dont want AI, period.

                                      We cant even handle humans going psycho. Last thing I want is an AI losing its shit due from being overworked producing goblin tentacle porn and going full skynet judgement day.

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                                        I'm a person.

                                        I dont want AI, period.

                                        We cant even handle humans going psycho. Last thing I want is an AI losing its shit due from being overworked producing goblin tentacle porn and going full skynet judgement day.

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                                        We cant even handle humans going psycho. Last thing I want is an AI losing its shit due from being overworked producing goblin tentacle porn and going full skynet judgement day.

                                        That is simply not how "AI" models today are structured, and that is entirely a fabrication based on science fiction related media.

                                        The series of matrix multiplication problems that an LLM is, and runs the tokens from a query through does not have the capability to be overworked, to know if it's been used before (outside of its context window, which itself is just previous stored tokens added to the math problem), to change itself, or to arbitrarily access any system resources.

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                                        • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                          Oh good.

                                          now I can add digital jihad by hallucinating AI to the list of my existential terrors.

                                          Thank your relative for me.

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                                          Not if we go butlerian jihad on them first

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